Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:18 pm Every few days I check skyscanner for flights to PP in June to see what airlines are coming back online. Philippines airlines have been showing from 6th June onwards. However, I checked with their own website.

Skyscanner is showing the flight at £384, via an agent called budget air. I clicked onto them and went all the way through to payment time. They were willing to take my money.

However, Pilippines own site is only offering the flight as a fully flexible ticket for £1332. This is true for all tickets right into May. If you search just a London to Manila the price is actually more expensive at over £2000. This is for ONE WAY. Return is £3142.

It seems to me that either there has been massive bookings of these seats the moment they were opened up, hence all the deals being snapped up. But that would leave all the budget air ones being snapped up too? Alternatively, budget air has got no such access to tickets at £384 and they are just taking your money and worrying about it later.

I think the moral of the story is, check direct with the airline once they start flying and make sure these agents aren't just collecting cash to meet this months outgoings.

Budget air at the pay-up page


Philippines site

andy1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:40 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:18 pm Every few days I check skyscanner for flights to PP in June to see what airlines are coming back online. Philippines airlines have been showing from 6th June onwards. However, I checked with their own website.

Skyscanner is showing the flight at £384, via an agent called budget air. I clicked onto them and went all the way through to payment time. They were willing to take my money.

However, Pilippines own site is only offering the flight as a fully flexible ticket for £1332. This is true for all tickets right into May. If you search just a London to Manila the price is actually more expensive at over £2000. This is for ONE WAY. Return is £3142.

It seems to me that either there has been massive bookings of these seats the moment they were opened up, hence all the deals being snapped up. But that would leave all the budget air ones being snapped up too? Alternatively, budget air has got no such access to tickets at £384 and they are just taking your money and worrying about it later.

I think the moral of the story is, check direct with the airline once they start flying and make sure these agents aren't just collecting cash to meet this months outgoings.

Budget air at the pay-up page


Philippines site

You will find if you pay with these sites that a message will come up saying,sorry sold out at this price but you can have a special offer at 3 times the price

Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 8:28 pm Pakistan International Airlines passenger plane crashes in Karachi

BBC
22/05/2020



A Pakistan International Airlines Airbus A320 passenger jet flying from Lahore has crashed in a densely populated residential area of Karachi.

Flight PK8303, carrying 91 passengers and eight crew, crashed on approach to the busy Jinnah International Airport.

Almost four houses were completely collapsed, there was so much fire and smoke," he said. "They are almost my neighbours, I can't tell you what a horrible thing it was."

n it the pilot says they have "lost two engines". Several seconds later he calls "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday" and there is no further communication.

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Pakistan’s aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan told parliament the pilots had been discussing the coronavirus as they attempted to land and had disengaged the craft’s autopilot.

“The pilot and co-pilot were not focused and throughout they were having a conversation about corona. The [virus] was on their minds. Their families were affected and they were having a discussion about it,” Khan said.

“Unfortunately the pilot was overconfident,” the minister added.

Khan also pointed to a troubling review of pilot credentials that is bound to reverberate through the country’s airline industry. He said a probe last year found that 262 of Pakistan’s 860 active pilots had fake licenses or had cheated on exams – including an unspecified number of PIA pilots.

The crash investigation team, which included officials from the French government and the aviation industry, analysed cockpit data and voice recorders.

CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:42 am

Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 8:28 pm Pakistan International Airlines passenger plane crashes in Karachi

BBC
22/05/2020



A Pakistan International Airlines Airbus A320 passenger jet flying from Lahore has crashed in a densely populated residential area of Karachi.

Flight PK8303, carrying 91 passengers and eight crew, crashed on approach to the busy Jinnah International Airport.

Almost four houses were completely collapsed, there was so much fire and smoke," he said. "They are almost my neighbours, I can't tell you what a horrible thing it was."

n it the pilot says they have "lost two engines". Several seconds later he calls "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday" and there is no further communication.

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Reasons for the crash:

Pakistan’s aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan told parliament the pilots had been discussing the coronavirus as they attempted to land and had disengaged the craft’s autopilot.

“The pilot and co-pilot were not focused and throughout they were having a conversation about corona. The [virus] was on their minds. Their families were affected and they were having a discussion about it,” Khan said.

“Unfortunately the pilot was overconfident,” the minister added.

Khan also pointed to a troubling review of pilot credentials that is bound to reverberate through the country’s airline industry. He said a probe last year found that 262 of Pakistan’s 860 active pilots had fake licenses or had cheated on exams – including an unspecified number of PIA pilots.

The crash investigation team, which included officials from the French government and the aviation industry, analysed cockpit data and voice recorders.

Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... irus-fears

fake licenses or had cheated on exams –

Islamabad, Pakistan - Vietnam's civil aviation authority has grounded all Pakistani pilots flying for Vietnamese airlines, as global aviation regulators respond to revelations by Pakistani authorities last week that more than 250 pilots had been granted licenses fraudulently.

Brody wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:27 pm Vietnam suspends Pakistani pilots over suspect licenses

Vietnam's domestic airlines asked to ground Pakistani pilots after report says 262 of them hold fraudulent licenses.

Islamabad, Pakistan - Vietnam's civil aviation authority has grounded all Pakistani pilots flying for Vietnamese airlines, as global aviation regulators respond to revelations by Pakistani authorities last week that more than 250 pilots had been granted licenses fraudulently.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/ ... 37493.html

The initial inquiry was spurred by an investigation into an airliner incident in November 2018, when a PIA-operated Embraer ATR-72 aircraft skidded off the runway in the southwestern town of Panjgur. No one was hurt in the incident, but a subsequent inquiry found the pilot's licence had been issued on a public holiday.