Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:05 am

Ravensnest wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:37 am
This thread feels like spam. They received the extension and announced Harmony will not be run on the phone, only a tv for now.

Multiple camera (this has 3 rear) is nothing new. It's like razor blades one had 2, the other 3, then one came out with 5 blades. Xandrue is correct to me. Phones seem to have reached a plateau.
For me though, the cool tech it has is the finger print sensor that is in the center and underneath the front glass.
It is not my intention to spam

As this is a Tech Zone and there’s a new and exciting (exciting to me at least) technologically advanced new product coming up I thought I’d like to post this information for those members here who might be interested.

I’m a great fan of both Huawei and Apple products always having their latest phones. By the way I’ve also posted about the coming iPhone 11 that will be launched in 5 days time. Really getting exciting.

But too bad Huawei Mate 30 has a big problem, really sad

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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:01 pm

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/16/2086 ... ss-renders

Huawei’s entire flagship Mate 30 lineup leaks ahead of Thursday launch
Four phones with three different notches
By Jon [email protected] Sep 16, 2019, 5:16am EDT

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Days before Huawei is due to reveal its new flagship Mate 30 lineup, launching without Google apps or services on September 19th, promotional images of four of the upcoming devices appear to have leaked online. The images were shared by leaker Evan Blass, and show off what he claims is the new Mate 30, Mate 30 Pro, Mate 30 Lite, and what appears to be a Porsche Design edition of one of the new handsets.

At the top of the lineup is the Mate 30 Pro. The images suggest the phone will be equipped with a wide notch at the top of the device and a display that curves around the left and right sides of the phone like Oppo’s “waterfall screen” seen on Vivo’s new Nex 3. On the back we can see the familiar Leica branding along with four sensors that are contained within a circular camera cutout. One cryptic tweet suggested that these will consist of a pair of 40-megapixel sensors, an 8-megapixel sensor, and a time-of-flight sensor. There also appears to be two signal strength indicators on the top left of the screen, suggesting there’ll be a dual-SIM version of the device.

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The Mate 30 Pro could have a screen that curves sharply around the edges of the device. Image: @EVLeaks


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The phone’s rear sensors appear to be contained within a circular cutout. Image: @EVLeaks

In comparison to the Pro, the regular Mate 30 appears to have a much smaller display notch, which MSPowerUser speculates could be because this model includes fewer sensors for face unlock. Dual-SIM functionality also appears to be on the cards for this model. We’re still waiting on images of the back of the device to reveal the rear cameras.

Both the Mate 30 Pro and Mate 30 are expected to use Huawei’s new Kirin 990 chipset, which has a variant that includes a built-in 5G modem. A 5G signal indicator is clearly visible on the image of the Mate 30, indicating that there could be a 5G-equipped model of this handset.

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The regular Mate 30 looks to have a smaller notch and no curved display. Image: @EVLeaks

The Mate 30 Lite has a very different design from its two siblings, with a hole-punch camera cutout on the front, a square camera array on its rear, and a rear-mounted fingerprint sensor. In a follow-up tweet Blass said that the phone is the same as the Nova 5i Pro, which was announced back in July, and which uses a less powerful Kirin 810 chipset.

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The Mate 30 Lite is allegedly the same as Huawei’s Nova 5i Pro that it announced back in July. Image: @EVLeaks

Finally, there’s the Porsche Design edition of the Mate 30 Pro, which appears to add a leather covering to the rear of the phone. Blass shared renders of the handset in black and red.

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The Porsche Design edition appears to have the same curved display as the Mate 30 Pro. Image: @EVLeaks

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The rear of the phone has a combined leather and glass construction. Image: @EVLeaks

Away from the design of the phones, the more pressing aspect of these devices will be their software. Recently, Google announced that the lineup will not be able to launch with official Google apps, thanks to the USA’s ongoing ban on companies doing business with Huawei without a license. As well as not having access to Google’s first-party apps, the move also means the phones won’t have access to services like the Play Store, the primary source of Android apps. Although Huawei’s previous phones have been able to function without the Play Store in China for years now, it will be much harder to convince Android users in Europe — where Huawei had been gobbling up market share — to buy a phone without easy access to the operating system’s primary app store.

There’s no official word on pricing for the new Mate devices. For that, we’ll have to wait until they’re unveiled in Munich on Thursday.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yongchi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:15 pm

If I can’t have Google Maps, Youtube, Translate, Playstore, etc. how is this phone going to help me?
Actually: I wasn’t aware that the ban was still in place for their new phones.
Thanks for the heads up.
I would need a serious discount. Then it might be interesting just for the camera.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by Cowshed Cowboy » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:17 am

Going to be interesting to see how well they sell without the Google playstore. If I was thinking of buying I think I'd hold off just in case it proves to be a disaster and they have to discount later to shift them off the shelves. I can't see the attraction without the entire apps selection.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:37 pm

https://9to5google.com/2019/09/23/how-t ... te-30-pro/

This is how easy it is to get Google apps on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro [Video]
Damien Wilde - Sep. 23rd 2019 1:00 am [email protected]

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The Huawei Mate 30 Pro is in a place that no other flagship has been before, launching globally but with no ‘official’ access to the Google Play Store and Google Play Services right out of the box. This means that many of your favorite Google apps are not instantly accessible on the Mate 30 Pro without a workaround or sideloading.

Luckily it is ridiculously easy to get Google Play Services, and therefore, Google apps working on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro. I need to preface this by saying that you can ‘sideload’ many Google apps using sites like APKmirror but without the underlying libraries and necessary data, they will fail to load or encounter issues.

Installing the Google Play Services frameworks turns the Huawei Mate 30 Pro into what you’d consider a ‘normal’ Android smartphone. You can use every Google app as normal and all-in-all, the process takes less than 10 minutes and doesn’t need any real technical know-how — meaning it can be done by just about anyone.

While Huawei cannot tell you how to install Google apps on the Mate 30 Pro for legal reasons, it’s unclear if employees in carrier stores will be able to help potential buyers add the Google Service Assistant APK file to their devices and streamline the process even further.

I have personally been running Google Play Services since the Mate 30 launch with zero issues, everything works as expected with no major hiccups beyond the fact the phone comes without the ‘normal’ setup process we’re all used to.

It was initially believed that an unlocked bootloader would be needed to install custom ROMs with Google Play Services and apps included but the solution is far more simple than that. The Huawei AppGallery does have a substantial library but it won’t ever be able to compete with the Google Play Store in sheer size and scale.



How to install Google app on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro

1. Open the stock ‘Browser’ or alternatively sideload the Chrome APK (does not need Google Play Services to operate)

2. Head to the following web address: http://www.lzplay.net/

3. Hit the big blue button to download the Google Services Framework installer

4. Allow the Google Services Assistant installer to install all of the necessary files and frameworks.

5. Once the Google Play Store is installed, run the application.

6. At this point, you may encounter issues being able to sign in. Simply restart your device and re-launch.

7. Sign-in and install any Google apps (note: you do not need to install all Google apps should you not require them).

8. Follow the video guide above for step-by-step instructions.

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All-in-all the entire process takes less than 10 minutes to complete — in fact, it took me less than five minutes from receiving the device to being able to launch the Google Play Store with no issues.

Signing-in to the Google Play Store also means that other Google apps like Gmail, Drive, Maps and the rest will automatically log you in on the Mate 30 Pro just as they would on a licensed Android phone.

Once the Google Services Framework is installed, the Mate 30 Pro runs just like any other Android phone. I haven’t encountered any major issues beyond some picture-in-picture annoyances with YouTube. Google Pay appears to work with no problems — although I will be testing this over the coming days — as do all of my banking apps.

If you have questions, then be sure to stick them down in the comments section below.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:28 pm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphela ... 9144916dbf

Huawei Insider Confirms Putting Google Apps On Huawei Mate 30 Pro 'Is Easy'
David Phelan Senior Contributor Consumer Tech

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Huawei’s next flagship, the Huawei Mate 30 Pro, looks gorgeous and is stuffed with advanced innovations and cutting-edge tech.

But, unless there’s a change in the political weather from President Trump, it will launch without a full-fat Google Android on board. This is not Huawei’s preference, but it has reluctantly said the phone will launch with AOSP, that’s the basic, open-source version of Android on it.

Which means there’s no Google Play Store, no Gmail, no Google Maps and so on, all of which require Google Mobile Services (GMS), and the current situation precludes Huawei launching with that.

There have been indications recently that loading GMS was far from impossible, though it could be fraught with difficulties and require a steady nerve.

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Now, though, there is evidence that loading Google apps to the Huawei Mate 30 Pro is quick, simple and highly effective. And that evidence comes from an impeccable source: someone inside Huawei itself.

The insider, speaking confidentially to me, explained that the process took them a matter of minutes, after which they logged into Google Play Store, and were then able to download apps seamlessly in a conventional way.

There are tutorials on the internet, including a useful one from the reliably excellent Damien Wilde at 9to5Google.

That’s good, because this method includes using a site called lzplay.net which is all in Chinese. Wilde’s tutorial helpfully indicates how to progress through this. Wilde says it’s a five-minute operation, too. The 9to5Google explainer also warns that this process is done at the user’s own risk – a standard comment on this kind of story.

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As you can see from the photograph above, the Huawei insider has been able to load Gmail, Google Maps, Play Store, YouTube, a folder of Google apps and more.

Moreover, I’m told that their Mate 30 Pro is completely stable and “working as you’d expect.” All apps, the source said, are “functioning brilliantly, the whole thing is easy.”

This doesn’t mean the process is completely without concerns, as explored by fellow Forbes contributor Zak Doffman here.

And it’s still, frankly, more complicated than many customers will want to get involved with. If other phones have all these items installed before they’re sold, many will choose those brands instead.

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But they won’t get Huawei’s stellar design, brilliant battery life, outstanding cameras and more. The side-loading system, now it's proving to be simple, makes a big difference. There are still sticking points. Netflix will not work to its fullest, but a simple way around that would be if Netflix puts its app in the Huawei App Gallery, its equivalent of the Google Play Store.

It's not a complete solution, then, but it certainly makes the phone much more enticing.

Although the best outcome for Huawei and customers alike would be the lifting of the trading ban between Huawei and the U.S. – something that still could happen – the fact that getting the Google apps people want onto the Mate 30 series of phones opens up a lot of exciting possibilities.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by Kammekor » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:50 pm

Who on earth wants to buy a flagship if you have to add the sails by yourself? Even if would be easy...
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:16 pm

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/news/mobi ... a-3702779/

Huawei Mate 30 Pro on sale tomorrow in China
The UK and Europe waits as China gets the best Huawei phone yet
By Henry Burrell | 8 hours ago

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The Huawei Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro have just got an official release date after their launch in Munich last week. If you’re in China, you’ll be able to buy the phones from tomorrow, 26 September (via GSMArena).

The big story for us with the Mate 30 phones is their lack of Google apps and services out of the box. Even though it’s not too hard to get Google apps on them (we did it) it’s not the best user experience. All other Android phones in the West have them fully installed, and for a phone that costs over 1,000 Euros, it’s seriously off putting.

No such problem in China, where Google simply doesn’t exist. Chinese retailers Vmall and JD have the phones up for pre-order already, so the official announcement is no surprise. After all, Huawei had to launch the phone somewhere.

We unboxed the Mate 30 Pro and it is a stunning phone. The quad cameras look to improve on the already stupendously good P30 Pro but it’ll be a tough sell for European buyers if it comes to our shores. Without easy access to Google services, we’d be cautious about spending this much money on a phone when you could buy a Samsung, Oppo, Sony or OnePlus phone with full Google integration.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by yong » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:16 am

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/201 ... 4c84c372f8


Huawei Has Already Sold A Million Mate 30s Before International Sales Begin

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SHANGHAI, CHINA - 2019/09/20: Close-up view of the back side of Huawei Mate 30 Pro, which features a ... [+]SOPA IMAGES/LIGHTROCKET VIA GETTY IMAGES

The U.S. government’s ban on Huawei from doing business with Google has placed the Chinese phone giant’s recent flagship phone the Mate 30 in uncertain territory. The phone series has officially been launched in Munich, and European pricing has been announced, but there’s no word on when the phones will actually go on sale, likely because Huawei would like to resolve the Google issue before its international rollout.

In China, however, it’s business as usual for Huawei–and good business at that. The Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro handsets went on sale this past Thursday and, according to Huawei, sold a million units in three hours.

Huawei’s a private company, so these figures can’t be verified, but photos of the crowd at Huawei’s new Shenzhen flagship store do show a packed house with long lines.

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Long lines outside Huawei’s flagship store in Nanshan district of Shenzhen as fans are waiting to ... [+]WEIBO

Furthermore, stock on Taobao are currently out, and imported models of the Mate 30 are on sale in Hong Kong at a mark up of an extra HK$1,500–signs that demand surpasses supply.

Selling a million unit in under a week is impressive, but perhaps not surprising given Huawei’s popularity in its home country, which has only increased following the recent U.S. drama. Some Chinese citizens feel Huawei has been unfairly scrutinized by the Trump administration, and thus want to show their support out of a sense of patriotism. According to research firm Canalys, Huawei shipped 37.3 million phones in China in the second quarter of this year, up 31% over 2018. Huawei, in fact, was the only brand to increase sales over the previous year in China, as Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo all suffered lower sales than their 2018 numbers.

I was able to secure a retail unit of the Mate 30 Pro on the first day they went on sale, and I’m currently in the midst of reviewing it. And while the verdict is still out on the open-sourced version of Android running on the phone, I can say that the hardware is yet again highly impressive and continues the hot streak of the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and P30 Pro.

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Huawei’s new flagship store in Shenzhen.HUAWEI

The Mate 30 series features a dual 40-megapixel sensor, with one being a standard lens and the other a wide-angle camera. This is the largest megapixel count in a wide-angle camera yet, and so far photos have been impressive.

I’ll have a full review, as well as a camera comparison against other top phones in the coming weeks.
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Re: Huawei Mate 30 - Launching on 19th September 2019

Post by Kammekor » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:25 am

Pretty much as expected. Great sales in China (no access to Google apps anyway), major drop in sales elsewhere.
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