Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes Away
Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
If it's a hot country quick burial/embalming/cremation has been the norm historically for obvious reasons.
I heard a story once about an elderly American lady on holiday in India who came back to the hotel after day trip to be told your husband had a heart attack this morning. Here's the ashes!!
I heard a story once about an elderly American lady on holiday in India who came back to the hotel after day trip to be told your husband had a heart attack this morning. Here's the ashes!!
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Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
How's the traffic around Riverside at the moment? Moving?
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Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
John Bingham - Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:39 pm
Yes, It's normal to have food at ceremonies such as weddings and funerals.
It's not for the diseased,
it's for anyone attending.
Besides that, you seem quite ignorant about customs here. Have you ever heard of Pchum Benh for example, or noticed the way people leave food and drinks at spirit-houses and shrines? Apparently not.
John Bingham - Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:57 pm
The food is for the people attending the ceremony, as I already pointed out. That means the live people at the ceremony, not the dead (deceased).
Francis - Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:14 pm
I always thought that this kind of ceremonies are held in order to satisfy/calm down ghosts/deities. Even though some ignorant Cambodian monks and bystanders are devouring the alms.....it's for the ghosts, to prevent them from biting you in the ass.
John Bingham - Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:50 am
You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
Joon - Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:51 am
What Francis said. It's for the spirits of the deceased (Potty, spelling here) who are believed to be in a perpetual state of hunger. It's more of an animist belief than a Buddhist belief.
So only the living are in a position of feeding the hungry spirits of their loved ones, which is why food offering is such a big deal at pagodas.
The incense burning is actually meant to call the spirits to feed and then the living can take the food for their own consumption after the incense burnt out.
So Peter's wife was sorry she couldn't provide his spirit with food and give him a timely proper funeral as she believes that his soul is stranded on Earth, hungry.
John Bingham - Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:07 am
No, because I was referring to the food on the tables, and had already posted this on the previous page:
Have you ever heard of Pchum Benh for example, or noticed the way people leave food and drinks at spirit-houses and shrines?
That food would be for the spirits, not the diseased that Dotty mentioned.
Yes, It's normal to have food at ceremonies such as weddings and funerals.
It's not for the diseased,
it's for anyone attending.
Besides that, you seem quite ignorant about customs here. Have you ever heard of Pchum Benh for example, or noticed the way people leave food and drinks at spirit-houses and shrines? Apparently not.
John Bingham - Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:57 pm
The food is for the people attending the ceremony, as I already pointed out. That means the live people at the ceremony, not the dead (deceased).
Francis - Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:14 pm
I always thought that this kind of ceremonies are held in order to satisfy/calm down ghosts/deities. Even though some ignorant Cambodian monks and bystanders are devouring the alms.....it's for the ghosts, to prevent them from biting you in the ass.
John Bingham - Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:50 am
You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
Joon - Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:51 am
What Francis said. It's for the spirits of the deceased (Potty, spelling here) who are believed to be in a perpetual state of hunger. It's more of an animist belief than a Buddhist belief.
So only the living are in a position of feeding the hungry spirits of their loved ones, which is why food offering is such a big deal at pagodas.
The incense burning is actually meant to call the spirits to feed and then the living can take the food for their own consumption after the incense burnt out.
So Peter's wife was sorry she couldn't provide his spirit with food and give him a timely proper funeral as she believes that his soul is stranded on Earth, hungry.
John Bingham - Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:07 am
No, because I was referring to the food on the tables, and had already posted this on the previous page:
Have you ever heard of Pchum Benh for example, or noticed the way people leave food and drinks at spirit-houses and shrines?
That food would be for the spirits, not the diseased that Dotty mentioned.
Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
what spirits are that ?
something like the guardian angel(s), or are they only there when someone died to accompany them? when do they show up?
do they depart at some time?
are they perhaps relatives or total strangers?
are they always good and helpful?
what the consequences if they got no food now?
(I think bingham was seriously drunk yesterday)
something like the guardian angel(s), or are they only there when someone died to accompany them? when do they show up?
do they depart at some time?
are they perhaps relatives or total strangers?
are they always good and helpful?
what the consequences if they got no food now?
(I think bingham was seriously drunk yesterday)
Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
I think you should start a separate thread about Khmer funerary practices, fascinating that they are, and leave this thread about the death of Peter to the death of Peter. RIP
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"Kafka is 'outdone' in our country, the new fatherland of Angkor" - Norodom Sihanouk
Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A
I agree with this. Not that it mattersLTO wrote:I think you should start a separate thread about Khmer funerary practices, fascinating that they are, and leave this thread about the death of Peter to the death of Peter. RIP
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