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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by k*rm*geddon » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:54 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote:
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The FBI, who do not normally investigate suicides, is taking it on.
The fix is in. ???
OMG !!!
You mean that... you mean that you think that ... that Clinton Inc. has struck again???
The very same Clintons who have seen so many unfortunate 'suicides' of those who have 'information' on them??
And what, it's being investigated by the FBI??? You mean by the same FBI which exonerated Clinton of her email criminality!!! ... the same FBI which was involved in creating the "Russian Collusion Delusion" in order to overturn Hillary's election defeat and subvert democracy!!!

Thank god you are onto this to inform the forum, because you and I both know there's a clique of utter lamebrains on here who will be easily indoctrinated by CNN into actually believing that Trump was behind Epstein's death.
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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by frank lee bent » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:16 am

That is certainly the line that all the Russian troll farms are pushing. It's all over the news today.

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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by SternAAlbifrons » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:37 am

k*rm*geddon wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:54 am
SternAAlbifrons wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:06 am
... ...
The FBI, who do not normally investigate suicides, is taking it on.
The fix is in. ???
OMG !!!
You mean that... you mean that you think that ... that Clinton Inc. has struck again???
The very same Clintons who have seen so many unfortunate 'suicides' of those who have 'information' on them??
And what, it's being investigated by the FBI??? You mean by the same FBI which exonerated Clinton of her email criminality!!! ... the same FBI which was involved in creating the "Russian Collusion Delusion" in order to overturn Hillary's election defeat and subvert democracy!!!

Thank god you are onto this to inform the forum, because you and I both know there's a clique of utter lamebrains on here who will be easily indoctrinated by CNN into actually believing that Trump was behind Epstein's death.
No Karma, I think that our General was behind it - because he knows that the conspiracy theorists run wild when this kinda thing happens. Good for the ratings.

My theory, by the way, is backed up by 10 times as much evidence as all the other theories combined.
-on the basis that 10 x 0 = 0
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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by frank lee bent » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:56 am

Clinton and Trump are both shown on flight manifests to pedo island. Personally I despise them equally.

One difference is that one controls the department of Justice, under whose auspices Epstein was held before his "suicide". The other does not.
You do the math.
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Post by frank lee bent » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:04 am

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/ ... mp-1456221
A trove of court documents unsealed Friday detail allegations by an alleged victim of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein that while working as a teenage locker room attendant at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort nearly two decades ago she was recruited to give Epstein massages that often involved sexual activity.

The roughly 2,000 pages of records released by the Manhattan-based 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals also show the same woman, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, appears to have claimed she had sex with a series of prominent men — including former politicians — at Epstein’s direction while working as a staff masseuse for the investment adviser, who eventually came under investigation in 2006 for sex trafficking over his involvement with teenage girls.

That probe wound up in a controversial plea deal where federal prosecutors in Florida agreed not to file charges against Epstein in exchange for him pleading guilty in 2008 to two state prostitution-related felonies. He served only about 13 months in county jail, much of it with permission to work from his office during the day.

The deal drew objections and a lawsuit from some of Epstein’s victims, who alleged they were illegally kept in the dark about the agreement. Earlier this year, a federal judge agreed the victims’ rights were violated. That ruling, and a fresh indictment of Epstein in federal court in New York City last month, set in motion the resignation of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta, who was the chief federal prosecutor in south Florida and signed off on the Epstein deal.

Epstein was found dead in his cell Saturday by apparent suicide, multiple media outlets reported.

In deposition excerpts made public Friday, Giuffre said she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 when she was approached by Epstein’s longtime friend Ghislaine Maxwell about giving massages to the wealthy investor, who owned a mansion in Palm Beach not far from the Trump resort.

“Where in the spa were you when you were approached by Ghislaine Maxwell?” Maxwell’s attorney Laura Menninger asked at a May 2016 deposition.

“Just outside the locker room, sitting where the other girl who works there usually sits,” Giuffre replied. “I was reading a book on massage therapy. … She noticed I was reading the massage book. And I started to have chitchat with her just about, you know, the body and the anatomy and how I was interested in it. And she told me that she knew somebody that was looking for a traveling masseuse. ... If the guy likes you then, you know, it will work out for you. You’ll travel. You’ll make good money.”

During the same deposition, Giuffre said the paid massages often involved sex and led to a more permanent role traveling with Epstein, who had homes on a private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, in New Mexico and New York. She alleged she was also instructed by Epstein and Maxwell to have sex with Epstein’s friends.

“Name the other politically-connected and financially powerful people that Ghislaine Maxwell told you to go have sex with,” Menninger said.

“They instructed me to have sex with George Mitchell, Jean Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, another prince, that I don’t know his name,” Giuffre said.

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Mitchell and Richardson issued statements Friday categorically denying Giuffre’s claims.

“The allegation contained in the released documents is false,” former Sen. Mitchell said. “I have never met, spoken with or had any contact with Ms. Giuffre. In my contacts with Mr. Epstein, I never observed or suspected any inappropriate conduct with underage girls. I only learned of his actions when they were reported in the media related to his prosecution in Florida. We have had no further contact.”

“These allegations and inferences are completely false,” former Gov. Richardson spokeswoman Maddy Mahony said. “To be clear, in Governor Richardson’s limited interactions with Mr. Epstein, he never saw him in the presence of young or underage girls. Governor Richardson has never been to Mr. Epstein’s residence in the Virgin Islands. Governor Richardson has never met Ms. Giuffre.”

Brunel owns a modeling business and is suing Epstein for damage to the firm as a result of reports it was used by Epstein to recruit underage girls for sex. Epstein is fighting the suit. Brunel has denied any impropriety.

The documents released Friday come from a federal lawsuit Giuffre filed against Maxwell in New York in 2015, alleging that she facilitated Epstein’s abuse of her and other young girls. Giuffre, like other alleged victims, gave up her right to sue Epstein in exchange for a financial settlement linked to the 2008 plea deal. However, the settlement did not preclude litigation against others.

Maxwell denied the allegations and insisted that she was unaware that any of the masseuses working for Epstein were underage. However, she settled the suit for an undisclosed sum after a district court judge ruled in March 2017 that the case should go to trial.

The records released under the 2nd Circuit ruling are a subset of those filed in connection with Giuffre’s suit against Maxwell. Only portions of the relevant depositions were made public Friday, complicating efforts to interpret some of the witnesses statements.

The appeals court ordered more records to be reviewed for release by a district court judge, but that process is expected to take some time.

The court battle has lingered over the past two years as several parties pressed for more of the court record to be unsealed.

Harvard Law Professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz moved to unseal certain documents after he was publicly accused by Giuffre of having sex with her at Epstein’s direction. Dershowitz vehemently denied the charge and said the full record of Giuffre’s statements show her to be a fabulist.


“The release today of previously sealed documents – which I have been trying to unseal for three years, -- categorically proves that Virginia Roberts never had sex with me,” Dershowitz said in a statement. “They prove that as far back as June of 2001, Roberts never included me among the numerous people she claimed to have sex with. She invented the false accusation against me only in 2014, when her lawyers ‘pressured’ her to do so for financial reasons.”

Dershowitz noted that an earlier book proposal from Giuffre mentioned him but made no claim she had sex with him.

“I never met Virginia Roberts. I never had sex with an underage person. I never socialized or had sex with any woman connected to Jeffrey Epstein. Since the day I met Jeffrey Epstein, I have had sexual contact with only one woman, namely my wife,” Dershowitz added.

Epstein, who was arrested last month in New Jersey as he arrived on a private plane from France, was denied bail.

The newly released court records show Epstein invoked his right against self-incrimination when asked various questions in the Giuffre suit, including about whether Maxwell first encountered Giuffre at Mar-a-Lago. “Fifth,” Epstein said, apparently referring to the Fifth Amendment.

The unsealed files don’t appear to include any allegation that Trump had sex with Giuffre or other women working for Epstein.

Giuffre also denied aspects of a reporter’s claim that she said: “Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s. He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.’”

“’Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.’ That part is true. ‘He didn’t partake in any’ of — any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.’ It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us, but it’s not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me,” Giuffre clarified later.

Epstein was once reportedly a regular at the resort, although he was never a member. Trump later banned Epstein from the property, allegedly due to a sexual assault on a girl there, according to previously disclosed court records.

“I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him,” Trump told reporters at the White House after Epstein’s arrest last month. “I had a falling out a long time ago, I’d say maybe 15 years. … I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you.”

In a comment to New York Magazine for a 2002 profile of Epstein, Trump called the financial whiz “a terrific guy” and acknowledged that he likes women “on the younger side.”

The documents released Friday include Giuffre’s employment records from Mar-a-Lago, showing she was paid $1866.50 by the resort in 2000. The court files also include a letter of recommendation Trump wrote for Giuffre’s father, who worked in maintenance at the resort and helped her get a job there.

Flight logs for Epstein’s private planes show Trump as a passenger on at least one flight, in January 1997 from Palm Beach to Newark.

The logs and depositions of Epstein’s pilots also detail former President Bill Clinton’s use of Epstein’s planes to travel around the world for the Clinton Foundation and to make paid speeches.

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York,” Clinton spokesman Angel Urena said last month.

“He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida.”

the documents are here https://i-uv.com/wp-content/uploads/201 ... Docs-1.pdf

It is worth noting that the Maxwell above is the daughter of the late Robert Maxwell a known mossad asset who mysteriously died in disgrace. Epstein had a long relationship with Ms Maxwell, and also some multi million dollar business deals with Ehud Barak, former Israeli pm.

It appears very likely that Epstein's pedo island was a honeypot for blackmail of prominent people.
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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by Anthony's Weiner » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:34 am

k*rm*geddon wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:54 am
SternAAlbifrons wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:06 am
... ...
The FBI, who do not normally investigate suicides, is taking it on.
The fix is in. ???
OMG !!!
You mean that... you mean that you think that ... that Clinton Inc. has struck again???
The very same Clintons who have seen so many unfortunate 'suicides' of those who have 'information' on them??
And what, it's being investigated by the FBI??? You mean by the same FBI which exonerated Clinton of her email criminality!!! ... the same FBI which was involved in creating the "Russian Collusion Delusion" in order to overturn Hillary's election defeat and subvert democracy!!!

Thank god you are onto this to inform the forum, because you and I both know there's a clique of utter lamebrains on here who will be easily indoctrinated by CNN into actually believing that Trump was behind Epstein's death.
I love it, some guy on a tiny little island, 13,000 km away from America feels the need to disparage Americans for their political views on America, while his view of what is right for America is the correct one. Of course that a nation he has absolutely f#ck nothing to do with should follow his opinion, not be entitled to make their own decisions, why you may ask? Because he is not a lamebrain. A sheep [email protected] yes, but not a lame brain.

Your Royal family had Epstein killed, to protect Betty's son, just like they killed Diana.

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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by IraHayes » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:47 am

The only person left to discredit now is Giuffre. As for Dershowitz being implicated in all this it was him trying to clear his name that got those “bombshell” documents unsealed.

An old movie, but, “Enemy of the State” shows just easy it would be do discredit someone... and that was back in 1998.... given the tech advances over the last 20 years and the opinions being touted as facts by the respectable news outlets who knows what to believe anymore.
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Post by canucklhead » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:58 pm

Karma, look what you have done! You triggerred Weiner's TDS again!
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Re: Epstein suicides

Post by k*rm*geddon » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:43 am

^^^ It appears to be terminal.

With regard to SternAAlbrifons, all I did was commend him on his sleuth work.
I thought he presented a most compelling case. The cosy FBI-Clinton relationship does indeed make it dodgy that it is they investigating Epstein's passing.
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