Ground Zero of the Cambodian Dog meat Trade.

Kung-fu Hillbilly · Post by **Kung-fu Hillbilly** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:21 am

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26.6.2019

A thick rope noose was placed around their necks through the bars of the cage and jerked tightly until the dogs suffocated to death.

"In the capital city of Phnom Penh, we visited more than 110 restaurants specialising in dog meat, and the vast majority reported that they were supplied by slaughterhouses located just 2 hours away, in the province of Kampong Cham. We knew that we had to go."

" As we started talking to Mr. Kry about the dog meat trade, he revealed that 80% of the people in his village are involved in the industry and that he himself has been in the trade since he was 15 years old. "

"One of them had four dogs tightly packed inside. The dogs were trembling in fear so severely that the entire cage was rattling."

"After several minutes of negotiations, we were able to convince Mr. Kry to release the two remaining dogs to us. Before allowing him any time to change his mind, we quickly removed the dogs from the cage, put them in our van and drove away."

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Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:34 am

Don't want to ruin the party but as a mind experiment just exchange the word 'dog' with 'pig' and see what it does to the reader.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:44 am

Cue the inevitable "meat is meat" debate....

Chad Sexington · Post by **Chad Sexington** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:34 pm

I am a dog lover, but have to confess I don't see a problem with dogs being considered a food resource, the real issue is the treatment of the dogs before they are killed and the way they are killed.
Is there really any difference between a dog and a pig (aside from the sentimental attachment afforded dogs in the Western world)? they are both sentient, intelligent animals, and if either (or indeed, any animal) is raised, harvested and dispatched as humanely and painlessly as possible, then who are we to judge which animals should and should not be considered a source of food (especially for feeding poor people)
In the provinces you see many, many dogs that have "owners" but are pretty much free range, in that they are left to fend for themselves (usually returning home each day to be fed some scraps or bones) These dogs appear to live (skirmishes with other dogs aside) a fairly good life, running free and "courting" with their canine buddies. Then one day their owner decides they are for the pot, and the dog is promptly, and efficiently knocked on the head and prepared for consumption.
I think it is unfair to compare that scenario to the commercial trade in dog meat, where dogs which are packed into small cages, starved and tortured before being killed in horrific manner, e.g. tied up with wire and boiled alive, (all of which "enhances" the flavour apparently) and then cooked for the pleasure of wealthy diners.

Captain · Post by **Captain** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:38 pm

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:34 pm I am a dog lover, but have to confess I don't see a problem with dogs being considered a food resource, the real issue is the treatment of the dogs before they are killed and the way they are killed.
Is there really any difference between a dog and a pig (aside from the sentimental attachment afforded dogs in the Western world)? they are both sentient, intelligent animals, and if either (or indeed, any animal) is raised, harvested and dispatched as humanely and painlessly as possible, then who are we to judge which animals should and should not be considered a source of food (especially for feeding poor people)
In the provinces you see many, many dogs that have "owners" but are pretty much free range, in that they are left to fend for themselves (usually returning home each day to be fed some scraps or bones) These dogs appear to live (skirmishes with other dogs aside) a fairly good life, running free and "courting" with their canine buddies. Then one day their owner decides they are for the pot, and the dog is promptly, and efficiently knocked on the head and prepared for consumption.
I think it is unfair to compare that scenario to the commercial trade in dog meat, where dogs which are packed into small cages, starved and tortured before being killed in horrific manner, e.g. tied up with wire and boiled alive, (all of which "enhances" the flavour apparently) and then cooked for the pleasure of wealthy diners.

Huge difference between a dog and a pig. A dog has an average IQ of 66, while a pig has an average IQ of 56.

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:28 pm

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:34 pm .... Then one day their owner decides they are for the pot, and the dog is promptly, and efficiently knocked on the head and prepared for consumption.

I'm not sure this is at all common.

I think it is unfair to compare that scenario to the commercial trade in dog meat, where dogs which are packed into small cages, starved and tortured before being killed in horrific manner, e.g. tied up with wire and boiled alive, (all of which "enhances" the flavour apparently) and then cooked for the pleasure of wealthy diners.

The only dog restaurants I've seen are of the shack variety, I don't think the consumption is reserved for the wealthy.

Chad Sexington · Post by **Chad Sexington** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:01 pm

Hi John, I'm not saying its common practice to eat dogs in the provinces (I do know 2 not so well off families for whom it's routine, they raise dogs for eating in the same fashion as raising chickens) more that when they do, there is a lot less cruelty involved than say when the Chinese want to eat dog meat.
Regarding the wealthy consumers, I was thinking more of the exporting of dogs for the Vietnamese market (dog meat 3 times more expensive than pork) rather than Cambodia. The dog "procurers" pay a not insignificant sum for a dog, they don't always steal them. (dog buyers are a common sight in the province I frequent)

Ravensnest · Post by **Ravensnest** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 pm

I agree I do not care if they eat dogs or cats nor any other animal (if it's not near-extinct). just treat it humanely.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:59 pm

Ravensnest wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 pm I agree I do not care if they eat dogs or cats nor any other animal (if it's not near-extinct). just treat it humanely.

In that case...

Probably-No meat except bush meat.

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