Are the police in Sihanoukville accepting on the spot fines from Chinese who cause fatal accidents?

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Are the police in Sihanoukville accepting on the spot fines from Chinese who cause fatal accidents?

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Besides the terrible tragedy of the collapsed building in Sihnanoukville there could be another one taking place on the roads there.

A friend of mine said to me in Sihanoukville last year " The Chinese killed two young Cambodian men in a fatal traffic accident at the junction of the Pizza Hut (in Sihanoukville and just around the corner from the collapsed building ironically). The police told the Chinese driver that he must pay $2000 compensation for each of the dead men. To which the Chinese man just reached into his pocket and paid $15000 to the police. Then he went into his vehicle and handed over another $15000, (whats this kill one and get one free for a future accident!!!) and then he was allowed to just drive off".

Therefore, does this mean that the police are accepting on the spot fines from the Chinese for fatal accidents they cause in Sihanoukville? That piece of news was from last year but I visited Sville just a few months ago and if anything the driving there has got worse.

A friend of mine there was fined by a traffic cop there for something and the cop said " Do you know that the speed limit through the town is 45 km/h?" Ha! the Chinese were driving through the town at 100 km/h, especially at night. It is as if the police are deliberately allowing the Chinese to break the law. Protecting them, because you rarely ever see them stop speeding Chinese vehicles. One day I was sat in a bar in Victory Hill next to the street of the Mealy Chenda guest house and saw one of the new, big vans that deliver people to the casinos zoom down the street to reach the end at some 0 to 40 km/h in 2 seconds, I shouted to my friend "There are children on that street!". That street was always full of children playing but the Chinese casino vans didn't give a damn. Kids would not have stood a chance to get out of the way and would have easily been killed by these speeding vans. I was so happy then, to see Romdeuls restaurant build a second 'sleeping policeman' on the road.

Another danger is Chinese drivers who are driving at high speed in Sihanoukville while looking at mobile phones or smoking at the wheel. Deadly. And when they come to the junction from a small road to the main high street they either do not stop or are highly reluctant to stop. Clearly whatever self indulgent snout in the trough activity they were heading to they did not want to wait one millisecond for the sake of road safety or rules of the road.

A friend said to me recently " Sihanoukville was once heaven. And now the Chinese have turned it into Hell".
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This is standard for anybody. In Cambodia if nobody presses charges for traffic accidents then nobody is prosecuted. Many traffic accidents are resolved with money, including fatal ones. It is more common among the Khmer but the same applies to barang, Chinese, etc.

There is no sensationalist racism here, sorry. The family will withdraw any complaint if properly compensated. The size of the compensation will depend on the family.

Money solves the problem. Take the story about $30k with a grain of salt... People exaggerate when they are upset over perceived racial prejudism. A friend this, a friend that, basically Chinese whisper.
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fax wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:39 pm This is standard for anybody. In Cambodia if nobody presses charges for traffic accidents then nobody is prosecuted. Many traffic accidents are resolved with money, including fatal ones. It is more common among the Khmer but the same applies to barang, Chinese, etc.

There is no sensationalist racism here, sorry. The family will withdraw any complaint if properly compensated. The size of the compensation will depend on the family.

Money solves the problem. Take the story about $30k with a grain of salt... People exaggerate when they are upset over perceived racial prejudism. A friend this, a friend that, basically Chinese whisper.
Chinese whispers?
You didn't even bother to read the rest of my post.
My source was reliable. He knows high ranking police and army.
Why should I bother wasting my time making any more new posts.
I think this board has the same Trolls as any other site.
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Feelgood wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:41 am My source was reliable. He knows high ranking police and army.
This is Cambodia where everyone thinks they know high ranking police and military who have special knowledge and can get people deported.

You don't exactly need to be the defense minister to see that there are speeding cars and corrupt police but paying off families of traffic casualty victims is by the book. That is the topic you put for this thread and that is what I am responding to.

Your source is mediocre at best. There is no secret knowledge here.

Question: Are the police in Sihanoukville accepting on the spot fines from Chinese who cause fatal accidents?

Answer: Yes, but it is not limited to Chinese. Barang and Khmer all do the same. Fatal accidents are resolved with money or prison if there is no money or the family chooses not to accept it. Rare, but happened in the case of a young medical student whose parents offered $500 at the victims' funerals but the perp ended up serving a year or so in prison.
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This was a big case from 2013 which is a good example of how things are done here. Your friend with all his military and police connections should have heard about it. It was Khmer on Khmer. The father offered to compensate the victims' families at their funerals but they rejected. She ended up serving 3 months I believe.
A hit-and-run driver who left three children dead and 11 injured in her wake was found guilty yesterday but given a suspended sentence by Phnom Penh Municipal Court that will see her released in less than two weeks.

The year six medical student, 23-year-old Keam Piseth Narita, raised a nationwide outcry in March after ploughing into a motorbike in broad daylight on Norodom Boulevard, then speeding away – only to crash into a crowd gathered outside of the Ministry of Interior, killing three children and injuring 11 bystanders.
https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/ ... onts-court
Leak Sokunthearith, 35, who lost her two daughters, said that the parents of the suspect had joined her children’s funeral.

“They have come to ask forgiveness for their child and asked me to take the money in exchange for the complaint against their child,” she said, adding that they had offered her $500 but she had asked for $20,000 in compensation for each of her daughters.

Her husband Rin Rithy, 45, said that he would lodge a formal complaint against the suspect to ensure that justice was delivered.
https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/ ... un-kills-3


Another case from 4 days ago also Khmer on Khmer:
The parents of three schoolchildren killed in a hit and run accident in Preah Vihear province last week, which involved Choam Ksan district Forestry Administration chief Kim Chet Thavy, rejected compensation of $4,000 per family offered by the authorities on behalf of the suspect on Thursday.

In written complaints lodged with the district police chief on June 24 and forwarded to the provincial court on Wednesday, Keo Sokhon, 54, Bunchea’s father, said his family initially demanded $40,000 in compensation, while the other two families had asked for $20,000 each.
https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/ ... -reject-4k
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driving at high speed in Sihanoukville while looking at mobile phones or smoking at the wheel.

At risk of being called a troll, really?
Smoking at the wheel is dangerous?
Are you talking about crack?

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Feelgood wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:28 pm A friend said to me recently " Sihanoukville was once heaven. And now the Chinese have turned it into Hell".
That's just rose-tinted nonsense, there's a good reason it was called Shitsville for many years before the Chinese developments.
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“in Sihanoukville and just around the corner from the collapsed building ironically”
No. There’s really nothing ironic about it. Whatsoever.

Unless this “Chinese driver” with all the cash was one of the buildings owners and the people he killed in the moto actually survived the collapse. That’s irony.

I’m so interested in your stories. Tell us more. (That’s also irony)
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Feelgood wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:41 am
fax wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:39 pm This is standard for anybody. In Cambodia if nobody presses charges for traffic accidents then nobody is prosecuted. Many traffic accidents are resolved with money, including fatal ones. It is more common among the Khmer but the same applies to barang, Chinese, etc.

There is no sensationalist racism here, sorry. The family will withdraw any complaint if properly compensated. The size of the compensation will depend on the family.

Money solves the problem. Take the story about $30k with a grain of salt... People exaggerate when they are upset over perceived racial prejudism. A friend this, a friend that, basically Chinese whisper.
Chinese whispers?
You didn't even bother to read the rest of my post.
My source was reliable. He knows high ranking police and army.
Why should I bother wasting my time making any more new posts.
I think this board has the same Trolls as any other site.
What a WOFT
Yes that's right. Someone who makes any sort of negative response to your post is a 'troll'.
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