David Fletcher Denied a Retrial in Cambodian Rape Case

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:16 pm

Satiated Parrot wrote:
takeoman wrote:
keeping_it_riel wrote:
Satiated Parrot wrote:The whole thing felt like a hatchet job. A hatchet job with relevance, but a hatchet job nonetheless.
Very possibly, but it is not the conspiracy Ricketson is alleging. He states that myself, together with the British Embassy, Andrew Drummond, Scott Neeson and other conspired to have Fletcher jailed for this crime. This is utterly ridiculous. I've had one dealing the British Embassy in 12 years - a passport renewal - and I've never even met Scott Neeson. Personally I would have preferred it if Fletcher had been taken back to the UK and given a proper trial in front of a jury for crimes he is alleged to have committed in the 1990s.
Once again my aging memory seems to recall you positively boasting how you and a friend drew up a plan, the final objective being to see Fletcher in Prey Sar. Doesn't that resemble a conspiracy? You seem to be indulging in the (ex) Trotskyist habit of trying to rewrite your personal history, one has to wonder why?
I hate to say it, but that's exactly the way I remember it. If I recall correctly, KiR and Fletcher had a drunken spat at Fletcher's bar. Then KiR launched his offensive against Fletcher.

Yep
KIR had it in for Fletch an once he started
Drumond stepped in and finished it
Now KIR is pleading ohhh its wasn't me....

Post by **Username Taken** » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:28 pm

keeping_it_real wrote:Ricketson is alleging . . . that myself, together with the British Embassy, Andrew Drummond, Scott Neeson and other conspired to have Fletcher jailed for this crime.

This is utterly ridiculous.

Of course it's utterly ridiculous. Drummond, Neeson and others didn't come until later.

takeoman wrote:Once again my aging memory seems to recall you positively boasting how you and a friend drew up a plan, the final objective being to see Fletcher in Prey Sar. Doesn't that resemble a conspiracy?

Satiated Parrot wrote:I hate to say it, but that's exactly the way I remember it. If I recall correctly, KiR and Fletcher had a drunken spat at Fletcher's bar. Then KiR launched his offensive against Fletcher.

phuketrichard wrote:Yep
KIR had it in for Fletch an once he started
Drumond stepped in and finished it

Sounds like a personal vendetta. Can't people go to jail for this sort of thing?

OrangeDragon · Post by **OrangeDragon** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:12 am

rick_o'shea wrote:No no no. I googled entophelia as OD posted. Not ephebophilia as MM posted. It wasn't what I expected. Something about pubic lice as a sexual fetish. There's even a yahoo group for it! Anyways, back on topic.

Sorry... misremembered the term... not something that's part of my daily vocabulary or attention (in either spelling).

General Chatter · Post by **General Chatter** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:12 am

OrangeDragon wrote:
rick_o'shea wrote:No no no. I googled entophelia as OD posted. Not ephebophilia as MM posted. It wasn't what I expected. Something about pubic lice as a sexual fetish. There's even a yahoo group for it! Anyways, back on topic.
Sorry... misremembered the term... not something that's part of my daily vocabulary or attention (in either spelling).

Why dont you answer you PM ....fs

keeping_it_riel · Post by **keeping_it_riel** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:05 am

Username Taken wrote:
keeping_it_real wrote:Ricketson is alleging . . . that myself, together with the British Embassy, Andrew Drummond, Scott Neeson and other conspired to have Fletcher jailed for this crime.

This is utterly ridiculous.
Of course it's utterly ridiculous. Drummond, Neeson and others didn't come until later.

takeoman wrote:Once again my aging memory seems to recall you positively boasting how you and a friend drew up a plan, the final objective being to see Fletcher in Prey Sar. Doesn't that resemble a conspiracy?

Satiated Parrot wrote:I hate to say it, but that's exactly the way I remember it. If I recall correctly, KiR and Fletcher had a drunken spat at Fletcher's bar. Then KiR launched his offensive against Fletcher.

phuketrichard wrote:Yep
KIR had it in for Fletch an once he started
Drumond stepped in and finished it
Sounds like a personal vendetta. Can't people go to jail for this sort of thing?

Sadly (for you) not. Flercher' sthe one in jail and I'm afraid that's where he's staying. As much as I'd like to have anybody who annoys me thrown in the clink, Fletcher's comeuppance has more to do with him being a recidivist sex offender who diddles adolescent girls.

The end.

takeoman · Post by **takeoman** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:22 am

keeping_it_riel wrote:
Username Taken wrote:
keeping_it_real wrote:Ricketson is alleging . . . that myself, together with the British Embassy, Andrew Drummond, Scott Neeson and other conspired to have Fletcher jailed for this crime.

This is utterly ridiculous.
Of course it's utterly ridiculous. Drummond, Neeson and others didn't come until later.

takeoman wrote:Once again my aging memory seems to recall you positively boasting how you and a friend drew up a plan, the final objective being to see Fletcher in Prey Sar. Doesn't that resemble a conspiracy?

Satiated Parrot wrote:I hate to say it, but that's exactly the way I remember it. If I recall correctly, KiR and Fletcher had a drunken spat at Fletcher's bar. Then KiR launched his offensive against Fletcher.

phuketrichard wrote:Yep
KIR had it in for Fletch an once he started
Drumond stepped in and finished it
Sounds like a personal vendetta. Can't people go to jail for this sort of thing?
Sadly (for you) not. Flercher' sthe one in jail and I'm afraid that's where he's staying. As much as I'd like to have anybody who annoys me thrown in the clink, Fletcher's comeuppance has more to do with him being a recidivist sex offender who diddles adolescent girls.

The end.

Do we therefore assume that your previous boasts, about how it was all the result of your plan, were merely an attempt to make yourself appear important, and contained not a grain of truth?

Digg3r · Post by **Digg3r** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:14 am

keeping_it_riel wrote:
Username Taken wrote:
keeping_it_real wrote:Ricketson is alleging . . . that myself, together with the British Embassy, Andrew Drummond, Scott Neeson and other conspired to have Fletcher jailed for this crime.

This is utterly ridiculous.
Of course it's utterly ridiculous. Drummond, Neeson and others didn't come until later.

takeoman wrote:Once again my aging memory seems to recall you positively boasting how you and a friend drew up a plan, the final objective being to see Fletcher in Prey Sar. Doesn't that resemble a conspiracy?

Satiated Parrot wrote:I hate to say it, but that's exactly the way I remember it. If I recall correctly, KiR and Fletcher had a drunken spat at Fletcher's bar. Then KiR launched his offensive against Fletcher.

phuketrichard wrote:Yep
KIR had it in for Fletch an once he started
Drumond stepped in and finished it
Sounds like a personal vendetta. Can't people go to jail for this sort of thing?
Sadly (for you) not. Flercher' sthe one in jail and I'm afraid that's where he's staying. As much as I'd like to have anybody who annoys me thrown in the clink, Fletcher's comeuppance has more to do with him being a recidivist sex offender who diddles adolescent girls.

The end.

There is NO evidence that he was a recidivist.

He was a sex offender in the UK he was not a sex offender in Cambodia. The crime that made him a sex offender in the UK is not a crime in Cambodia.

Until there is evidence that he broke a law in Cambodia why is he in jail in Cambodia?

Where are the victims? The only victim there seems to be recants her allegations on video. She is also above the age of consent in Cambodia (and the UK).

If seems Fletcher has pissed off someone. More likely by being too much of a fraud in the NGO game. That's why he was stitched up so effectively. Given the shame brought on the industry if Somaly Mam was a man she'd probably be facing similar allegations.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:19 am

Digg3r wrote:The crime that made him a sex offender in the UK is not a crime in Cambodia.

I'm still sipping my first coffee of the day so I freely admit I'm probably a bit more twatty than usual.

By your argument, internationally-recognised war criminals that have not between prosecuted in their own country cannot be guilty. I was a having a chat with a guy from the Hague Tribunal the other day that would have some strong views about that.

Edit: I had more coffee and another read.

Digg3r wrote:Until there is evidence that he broke a law in Cambodia why is he in jail in Cambodia?

Fair point.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:27 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
Digg3r wrote:The crime that made him a sex offender in the UK is not a crime in Cambodia.
I'm still sipping my first coffee of the day so I freely admit I'm probably a bit more twatty than usual.

By your argument, internationally-recognised war criminals that have not between prosecuted in their own country cannot be guilty. I was a having a chat with a guy from the Hague Tribunal the other day that would have some strong views about that.

Edit: I had more coffee and another read.
Digg3r wrote:Until there is evidence that he broke a law in Cambodia why is he in jail in Cambodia?
Fair point.

Simple;
KIR heard from someone what was going on with the dump trips ( an money being misused) an David's questionable nature and researched into his background and what was going on
Had a run in with David at his bar
Davids charity was questionable and someone wanted to "work" with him but David told him no.
ApLE got involved and KIR called in Drumond to write about him
got Dany to lie, David gave a very incriminating interview with Drumond
David split to Thailand and was arrested an imprisoned in Bangkok,
Cambodia court found him Guilty for Rape on hearsay evidence
Requested his extradition back to Cambodia
David appealed an lost and was brought back

Rest is history

keeping_it_riel · Post by **keeping_it_riel** » Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:57 pm

Richard

That's about it. The only thing you've missed out is the role of another Australian run quasi-judicial NGO who were also involved running their own investigation and may later have had something to do with the arrest in Bangkok. Drummond told me he was contacted by ****** straight after the Sunday Mirror piece appeared and was told he had "ruined" their ongoing op. Drummond's response (from what I recall) was that Fletch was such a clear and present danger to young women that he needed taking out immediately rather than after months and months of a long drawn out up.

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