Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:06 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

As if anybody in Cambodia gives a single, flying, fuck about what a dish or antennae is for.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:09 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:06 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

As if anybody in Cambodia gives a single, flying, fuck about what a dish or antennae is for.

They will probably follow the suggestions from their brother in arms, China, and ban it.

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:10 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:09 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:06 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

As if anybody in Cambodia gives a single, flying, fuck about what a dish or antennae is for.

They will probably follow the suggestions from their brother in arms, China, and ban it.

lol, let them try

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:17 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:07 pm

nerdlinger wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:01 pm Apparently although the dish does look like a classic dish, the underlying tech is a phased antenna array, which theoretically means you could build one that looks nothing like a dish. Of course you’d still be transmitting from it, so in principle those signals could be detected, but it’d be enough to avoid the attentions of busybody neighbours.

For receiving the dish is still a requirement. The Phased Antenna Array only specifies the sending part.

If it really came to that, you could house it in a box made of that tinted plastic roofing stuff so no-one could see it.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:16 pm

The local CPP departments in villages and sangkats are actually pretty well organized / informed. If, but only if, the big boss makes this a priority thing, it will be very difficult to use starlink in Cambodia. Don't underestimate the CPP when it comes to keeping and maintaining control.

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:25 pm I do not see how a starlink device could be tracked or monitored by local authorities; there won't be starlink country office; nothing will stop consumers worldwide buying these units and connecting or assembling their own and then connecting. Time will tell ofc.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:36 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:25 pm I do not see how a starlink device could be tracked or monitored by local authorities; there won't be starlink country office; nothing will stop consumers worldwide buying these units and connecting or assembling their own and then connecting. Time will tell ofc.

First of all they could simply intercept the boxes with antennas when imported. Second, a flashy white antenna (with Starlink log?) fully exposed to the sky at a certain angle with nearly a diameter of 1 meter will be pretty easy to spot. of course there will be the occasional house in the bush using one unnoticed, but I'm talking about serious adoption, let's say 10-100k users in Cambodia. I don't think they will allow because it will be a major hole in their safety net, at least in their world.

Again, it comes down to how eager they are. My guess is, they will be pretty eager. My guess is also Starlink won't be a success in China.

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:31 pm I have two dishes under a plastic sheeting roof with steel trusses, and they pick up TV from satellites at 35,000km altitude, so I don't think it'll be an issue.