angkorjohn2 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:21 pm

Andrew Nasia wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:00 pm Wasn't he outed elsewhere as Pork Pie Porn?

Yes among other characters. He pushed a pro Pedo agenda, racist, anti Jew, holocaust denier. He was quite clever in his approach he lured people in as if he was normal and then started loads of threads to seek personal information as well as pushing his weird agenda. "anyone been arrested" etc. I'll "out" myself as one of the people who voiced my concerns privately, and occasionally publically on the forum. One post I made was removed which is when I voiced it to the general. I had mis-guessed who he was, for those here long enough they'll remember the teacher that was found to be writing pedo fan fiction a long time ago that made Lolita look tame. It wasn't him but he was if not a friend of this guy then a definite supporter and i don't know who he is to this day. However his deplorable views and the removal of him has to be welcomed.

A10 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:11 pm
I'm sure most people understand that there is a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on, but for those who are just casual viewers or lurkers (which is probably most), I don't see the point in bringing it up at all. It makes this place seem like you have to be part of the club to follow what's going on, otherwise you're completely lost.

he wanted to explain his actions to any members who might've taken exception

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 9:24 pm

A10 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:11 pm
I'm sure most people understand that there is a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on, but for those who are just casual viewers or lurkers (which is probably most), I don't see the point in bringing it up at all. It makes this place seem like you have to be part of the club to follow what's going on, otherwise you're completely lost.

Yeah, I agree that for casual viewers it probably wouldn't mean a lot. You say 'which is probably most' ..well, I don't know if that is true (I don't have stats) but in any event, CEO also has a loyal core of members that have been around for some time and are active, ongoing contributors. And they would be familiar with the Ricky Bobby saga.. for want of a better word..

Hence my original quote:

he wanted to explain his actions to any members who might've taken exception

Seems to me sometimes it's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't and you can't keep everybody happy all the time.

angkorjohn2 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:46 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 9:24 pm

A10 wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:11 pm
I'm sure most people understand that there is a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on, but for those who are just casual viewers or lurkers (which is probably most), I don't see the point in bringing it up at all. It makes this place seem like you have to be part of the club to follow what's going on, otherwise you're completely lost.

Yeah, I agree that for casual viewers it probably wouldn't mean a lot. You say 'which is probably most' ..well, I don't know if that is true (I don't have stats) but in any event, CEO also has a loyal core of members that have been around for some time and are active, ongoing contributors. And they would be familiar with the Ricky Bobby saga.. for want of a better word..

Hence my original quote:

he wanted to explain his actions to any members who might've taken exception

Seems to me sometimes it's a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't and you can't keep everybody happy all the time.

Don't disagree sir, unless they are pushing the pro pedo agenda like RB was. I doubt anyone is supportive of that, but if they are ban. I think the admins made this post to say folks like that, of that mindset are not welcome, anywhere especially here.

As far as I know RB hasn't posted on TOF in many months.

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:58 am Transparency. Open government ??
Or a paternalistic nanny state ??

Dear General Big Mack,
Please do not get me wrong, I have respect and gratitude for the way you guide this forum.
I also realise you are in an invidious position here.
But I am still going to squeal like a stuck pig.

The evidence
Hints, suspicions, rumours, general dislike by the mob. And your assurance.
That is how motodop juries hang people in the public square.

If he is an odious troll who hogs the forum - ban him for that, but be clear about it.
If holocaust denial is a banning crime on CEO - also make that slippery slope very clear.
If he is a pedo defender or worse - this should be documented for everybody to see.
Likewise if spy, cop, conman, etc.

I am not fighting for RB's human rights here - it is about OUR right to transparency, to principals of justice, and if not always to be able to participate in the decision making process - to at least to be able to make informed comment.

Just my opinion, as always, and i will accept your decision, But I do find it unsatisfactory -
as someone who insists on hard facts and reputable sources before i make up my mind about anything.
as someone who participates in CEO because i am driven by an intense curiosity.
as someone who believes in the principals of natural justice.
and especially as someone who demands my right to know exactly what the fuck is going on all around me.

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:57 am

As far as I know RB hasn't posted on TOF in many months.

why do you suppose that is?
a bit obtuse when you commented on the thread that caused him to stop posting albeit using another handle.