Problem: advice is needed
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Re: Problem: advice is needed
Sadly there is no solution to the problem, and the real advice has already been given - it's just hard to see through the shitstorm.
There's a suggestion that you need to identify if it's your problem to fix, or hers. I'd look more closely into this.
I'll spell it out for new people. As a stereotype, Filipinos are known for scamming tourists and expats along Riverside. Does this mean all Filipinos are scammers? No. Are most of the scammers on Riverside Filipinos? It certainly seems that way. Is your GF one of these? Only she knows for sure.
The Filipino scams usually always start with "I like your [hat | shirt | tattoo | manliness]" and then if the mark responds favourably, the scam becomes "Where are you from?" and the scammer's response is ALWAYS "Oh, my [sister | cousin | friend] lives there, she's a [nurse | student]." If the mark is still interested, this leads to a shared meal or drink, and eventually a rigged card game, which leads to the mark either being taken to the ATM and forced to drain his funds by strong men who magically appeared, or he becomes a "boyfriend" of the scammer. Although very much a stereotype, in the case of Riverside scamming, the stereotype is proven to be the norm.
Am I suggesting your GF fits this pattern? Not at all, I don't know her - and I have many close Filipino friends who are better human beings than I, so who am I to judge?
I'm posting this only to let you in on the snide side comments.
Good luck with your way forward.
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Re: Problem: advice is needed
Problem? I for one support your right to celebrate your uniqueness!
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Yeah, the choices are stark and unpalatable given such a lengthy overstay. I found this generic info:StroppyChops wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:29 pmSadly there is no solution to the problem, and the real advice has already been given - it's just hard to see through the shitstorm.
There's a suggestion that you need to identify if it's your problem to fix, or hers. I'd look more closely into this.
https://www.movetocambodia.com/planning ... /#overstayIt is possible to overstay for up to 30 days. After 30 days, overstayers are still liable for the $10 daily fee, but, depending on the length of the overstay, risk imprisonment, deportation, and future bans on entering the country.
So it's not clear what the outcome would be in this case in terms of prison, deportation and future bans. I would think though that voluntarily reporting to the authorities would likely be treated with leniency....but hey, it's Cambodia... OTOH, letting it drag on is also fraught with danger.
There was a not too dissimilar case last year of a Frenchman (Guillaume) that was dating (with a view to marriage) a khmer woman in France who had overstayed her visa there for a number of years. A long 36 page thread, however, the indication was that she was perhaps seeking to marry him in order to gain some advantage in obtaining legitimate residency in France. I think that assertion was never substantiated however, in the end he pulled the plug on the relationship.
general-chatter/dating-cambodian-woman- ... =guillaume
Re: Problem: advice is needed
You have not answered the question about whether you are both working.
Then could you, over a period of time, save enough to pay off the debt?
Another concern is if you work, you support her while she does not work, then you are responsible for her debts.
She should be working.
If you are never going to be able to save enough to pay off her debts, you have to look at other options.
A good option would have been to have a credit card while you were in Europe, then keep it for emergencies when you need money.
Then could you, over a period of time, save enough to pay off the debt?
Another concern is if you work, you support her while she does not work, then you are responsible for her debts.
She should be working.
If you are never going to be able to save enough to pay off her debts, you have to look at other options.
A good option would have been to have a credit card while you were in Europe, then keep it for emergencies when you need money.
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Re: Problem: advice is needed
explorer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm You have not answered the question about whether you are both working.
Then could you, over a period of time, save enough to pay off the debt?
Another concern is if you work, you support her while she does not work, then you are responsible for her debts.
She should be working.
If you are never going to be able to save enough to pay off her debts, you have to look at other options.
A good option would have been to have a credit card while you were in Europe, then keep it for emergencies when you need money.
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Re: Problem: advice is needed
OP, since you don't have the money to pay your g/f's overstay fee, either you get to stay in Cambodia forever with her, or until she gets busted, or you plan to move to the Philippines for good. If she gets deported, then she will probably have her passport confiscated on her return and cannot leave the country for a long while, but if you stay in Cambodia, she can't use her passport anyway.
Whatever way you look at it, it's not good.
The other thing is that your g/f never mentioned this problem to you.That is quite a big problem to forget about, so I guess she was keeping that from you. That's not good either. You two need to communicate better. Next thing you know you will find out that she has a family in the Philippines. I hope not, but you should ask her if there is anything else that she forgot to tell you. My 2c.
Whatever way you look at it, it's not good.
The other thing is that your g/f never mentioned this problem to you.That is quite a big problem to forget about, so I guess she was keeping that from you. That's not good either. You two need to communicate better. Next thing you know you will find out that she has a family in the Philippines. I hope not, but you should ask her if there is anything else that she forgot to tell you. My 2c.
Re: Problem: advice is needed
I do like to stay in Cambodia sice I've got some friends here but wouldn't mind a "trip" to the Philippines if that's necessary. So then my only question would be how to get her out of here with the least problems.
And let's say she would end up in jail, for how long would that be? A day, a month, a year, 10 years?
Anyway, thanks for the help
And let's say she would end up in jail, for how long would that be? A day, a month, a year, 10 years?
Anyway, thanks for the help
Re: Problem: advice is needed
It's probably possible to save it in the end but as mentioned by others it's just a matter of time before we end up in an unlucky situation where somebody's gonna find out. Few weeks ago I was in PP and had to come down from my hotel room to show my passport to immigration. Luckily he didn't ask who was staying in the room otherwise I'd already accidentally betrayed her.explorer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm You have not answered the question about whether you are both working.
Then could you, over a period of time, save enough to pay off the debt?
Another concern is if you work, you support her while she does not work, then you are responsible for her debts.
She should be working.
If you are never going to be able to save enough to pay off her debts, you have to look at other options.
A good option would have been to have a credit card while you were in Europe, then keep it for emergencies when you need money.
Anyway, I don't have any problems but I do want to know how to get rid of hers.
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As far as I know the authorities will "size up" anyone who is an over-stayer to figure out their capacity to pay. So they'll first try to press to see if the person can possibly get the full amount paid by friends/ relatives. If this doesn't work right, they will try and cut a deal for, say, half the fee. If this doesn't work and they figure the person obviously isn't capable of paying they'll keep them for a few weeks and then deport them.
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Re: Problem: advice is needed
I would start where it's not going to cost money, and that is inquiring at the Philippine Embassy as to what they think.Shantaram wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:11 pmIt's probably possible to save it in the end but as mentioned by others it's just a matter of time before we end up in an unlucky situation where somebody's gonna find out. Few weeks ago I was in PP and had to come down from my hotel room to show my passport to immigration. Luckily he didn't ask who was staying in the room otherwise I'd already accidentally betrayed her.explorer wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:57 pm You have not answered the question about whether you are both working.
Then could you, over a period of time, save enough to pay off the debt?
Another concern is if you work, you support her while she does not work, then you are responsible for her debts.
She should be working.
If you are never going to be able to save enough to pay off her debts, you have to look at other options.
A good option would have been to have a credit card while you were in Europe, then keep it for emergencies when you need money.
Anyway, I don't have any problems but I do want to know how to get rid of hers.
I think the Philippine Embassy here may have different priorities to their others Embassies around the world , but I know a Philippina who was sharing a cell on death row with a Cambodian girl that I visit in Malaysia received money from the Philippines Ambassador and ended up taken off death row and returned to her home.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained, You should have done it yesterday , so it's top of your list of things to do today.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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