New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Breaking news from Cambodia can be found here. CEO often finds Khmer news and translates it into English for our readers if it is interesting to expats, locals, Cambodians living abroad and anyone who wants to stay informed of the latest local and international news stories about Cambodia and our neighbors in South East Asia. There are many sources for Khmer news articles and they can all be found here in one place. Most of the media comes out of Phnom Penh, Siem Reap or Sihanoukville, but we cover national Cambodian news from all provinces.
Albror
Expatriate
Posts: 82
Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:55 am
Reputation: 29
Sweden

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by Albror » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:12 pm

I dont get why you build a light wood house and then put a heavy as fuck balcony on the far end of it.

But what do you expect when most Asian contractors seemingly cant even figure out what way water flows.
andy1
Expatriate
Posts: 374
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:33 am
Reputation: 97
Korea North

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by andy1 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:32 pm

Looks like the great big concrete slab was the floor of the balcony,just hung off the wooden house.........
User avatar
John Bingham
Expatriate
Posts: 7058
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:26 pm
Reputation: 2913
Yemen

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by John Bingham » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:12 am

andy1 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:32 pm
Looks like the great big concrete slab was the floor of the balcony,just hung off the wooden house.........
To me it looks like there were the common concrete columns that were used to raise the whole house, with the wooden structure on top. However the balcony seems to have been a huge slab that was attached to the columns but protruded without any extra support. So the huge weight put a strain on the concrete columns and cross pieces and caused them to fail.
But what do you expect when most Asian contractors...
Who even mentioned contractors? This was a guy who built his own house, as many do.
explorer
Expatriate
Posts: 2039
Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:37 pm
Reputation: 676
Australia

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by explorer » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:07 am

John Bingham wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:12 am
But what do you expect when most Asian contractors...
Who even mentioned contractors? This was a guy who built his own house, as many do.
Most people use contractors. Most people dont have the skills or equipment to do it themselves. Construction normally requires a team. It is difficult for one person to build a house alone. Working with unskilled people is a waste of time.

Most people who build their own houses, are people who work in construction.
## I thought I knew all the answers, but they changed all the questions. ##
User avatar
RickyBobby
BANNED
Posts: 1086
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:44 pm
Reputation: 357
Cambodia

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by RickyBobby » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:25 am

cptrelentless wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:50 pm
I wonder why they chose to have concrete on that bit, if it had been wood like the rest of the floor it likely would not have collapsed. RIP Yiay.
Strangest thing isn't it. Normal house has a wooden deck/porch attached to it. If the rest of the house has a wooden floor, why pour a concrete patio so high up? Sad Sad, and the engineering maxim, 'if in doubt overkill' could sure have helped beef up the structural requirements here.
"Dear Lord Baby Jesus, Lyin in a Manger"
pczz
Expatriate
Posts: 2675
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:00 pm
Reputation: 593
Location: phnom penh
Great Britain

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by pczz » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:42 am

RickyBobby wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:25 am
cptrelentless wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:50 pm
I wonder why they chose to have concrete on that bit, if it had been wood like the rest of the floor it likely would not have collapsed. RIP Yiay.
Strangest thing isn't it. Normal house has a wooden deck/porch attached to it. If the rest of the house has a wooden floor, why pour a concrete patio so high up? Sad Sad, and the engineering maxim, 'if in doubt overkill' could sure have helped beef up the structural requirements here.
Seen cantilevered balconies before but no usually this width. support are too small and do not go into or under the balcony as they should. its litterally been glued on the end,from the looks of it
Queef
Expatriate
Posts: 497
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:31 pm
Reputation: 246
New Caledonia

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by Queef » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:15 am

Is there a building code in Cambodia? If yes, is there such a thing as code enforcement here?

I'm not too worried about one dude adding a huge concrete slab to a flimsy wooden house. What truly worries me is the 10+ story buildings that keep popping up everywhere. How do we know for sure they're safe and won't collapse after 10 years?
Stinkman
Expatriate
Posts: 145
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:41 am
Reputation: 61

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by Stinkman » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:42 am

Those concrete columns and beams are far too skinny, with very thin rebar at the joints and no lateral support to resist side loads and torque whatsoever. Very poorly thought out and constructed.
newkidontheblock
Expatriate
Posts: 1601
Joined: Tue May 20, 2014 3:51 am
Reputation: 467

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by newkidontheblock » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:12 am

Do locals hire architects and structure engineers when building a house? I thought it was more along the lines of contacting Souk the local builder man, telling him what you wanted, then he’d bring his team over and start building. I doubt builder man went to architecture or engineering school and learned about load bearing and different materials before starting out.

At least that’s what happened with the bunker.
User avatar
John Bingham
Expatriate
Posts: 7058
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:26 pm
Reputation: 2913
Yemen

Re: New House Collapses on House-Warming Party: 1 Dead

Post by John Bingham » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:29 am

explorer wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:07 am
John Bingham wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:12 am
But what do you expect when most Asian contractors...
Who even mentioned contractors? This was a guy who built his own house, as many do.
Most people use contractors. Most people dont have the skills or equipment to do it themselves. Construction normally requires a team. It is difficult for one person to build a house alone. Working with unskilled people is a waste of time.

Most people who build their own houses, are people who work in construction.
Sure, he obviously employed a highly-skilled prestigious contracting company to build that slab.
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], dilbert, Ghostwriter, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Ingvar 7788, John Bingham, LoukBongThom, mkilburn2002, Orloff, paul2d and 396 guests