"Science does not kill God"

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religion is not god. god is not religion. religion is middle men. god is not.
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markd wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:35 pm religion is not god. god is not religion. religion is middle men. god is not.
Agreed. Religion is a man-made set of rules used to control others and amass power and wealth, using a deity as a pretext. In my view, religion = death.

To me, faith is something altogether different.
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Bubble T wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:03 pm
RickyBobby wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:30 am My own observational data suggests to me that people living lives with accountability, morality and shared values inside of community have stronger family ties and marriages and are overall healthier and happier.
What on earth does that have to do with religion? Teaching people that they can spend their lives raping, pillaging, and committing genocide and still be rewarded in heaven if they repent to the right God before they die isn't accountable or moral or a value that many people would share if they actually thought it through. Fortunately it's all made up so there's no point in getting pissed off about it.
Calm down son. The majority of religious people are not as you describe, and specifically the ones I know are Christian; who don’t rape pillage or commit genocide last I checked.
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RickyBobby wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:37 pm
Bubble T wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:03 pm
RickyBobby wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:30 am My own observational data suggests to me that people living lives with accountability, morality and shared values inside of community have stronger family ties and marriages and are overall healthier and happier.
What on earth does that have to do with religion? Teaching people that they can spend their lives raping, pillaging, and committing genocide and still be rewarded in heaven if they repent to the right God before they die isn't accountable or moral or a value that many people would share if they actually thought it through. Fortunately it's all made up so there's no point in getting pissed off about it.
Calm down son. The majority of religious people are not as you describe, and specifically the ones I know are Christian; who don’t rape pillage or commit genocide last I checked.
Funny, I thought Catholics come under the heading of Christian. You might like to ask the pope about the rape bit!
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pczz wrote:Funny, I thought Catholics come under the heading of Christian. You might like to ask the pope about the rape bit!
Bad apples exist in any organized religion. Catholicism is one of the largest religions in the world that have a single unified structure and leader. Plus it’s politically fashionable to find wrong with the Catholic Church.

The pope is addressing it and weeding out the bad apples and behavior. Publicly.

It takes the bold to accuse a politically correct religion of bad behavior.

Stop bashing only Catholics.

Publicly and loudly go after some socially and politically correct organizations and see what happens.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:44 am
pczz wrote:Funny, I thought Catholics come under the heading of Christian. You might like to ask the pope about the rape bit!
Bad apples exist in any organized religion. Catholicism is one of the largest religions in the world that have a single unified structure and leader. Plus it’s politically fashionable to find wrong with the Catholic Church.

The pope is addressing it and weeding out the bad apples and behavior. Publicly.

It takes the bold to accuse a politically correct religion of bad behavior.

Stop bashing only Catholics.

Publicly and loudly go after some socially and politically correct organizations and see what happens.
yes I concur. Its vogue to bash Christianity these days.

As for the rest, I don't live in the past, and whatever you speak if is not anything to do with the bible or the true teachings of Christianity. Show me where it teaches that? That was just abuse of power; the evil nature of man exploiting something good. That just proves the need for it even more.

If you read what I wrote, with a mind to understand instead of criticize, you would see that what I am saying and reaffirm here is that people who strive to be Godly and live good honest and wholesome (moral) lives, have a lot of benefits from it. This is true whether their belief is actually true or not.

There are a lot of religious people, and they are the problem, because true Christianity is a relationship not a religion. Religion is all rules and law and tradition. Relationship is love and grace commitment and faith. (I actually agree with you that 'religion' has caused a lot of problems, the bible also speaks of the pharisees; they were very pious and religious)

And again, whether you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God or not, as a guide it helps live that life as above.
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RickyBobby wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:37 pm
Bubble T wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:03 pm
RickyBobby wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:30 am My own observational data suggests to me that people living lives with accountability, morality and shared values inside of community have stronger family ties and marriages and are overall healthier and happier.
What on earth does that have to do with religion? Teaching people that they can spend their lives raping, pillaging, and committing genocide and still be rewarded in heaven if they repent to the right God before they die isn't accountable or moral or a value that many people would share if they actually thought it through. Fortunately it's all made up so there's no point in getting pissed off about it.
Calm down son. The majority of religious people are not as you describe, and specifically the ones I know are Christian; who don’t rape pillage or commit genocide last I checked.
Then you are being willfully ignorant. Many genocides and terrible crimes have been committed in the name of Christianity (and most other religions). Even God himself commits multiple acts of genocide in the Bible and instructs others to commit horrific acts.
The fact your friends don't do this stuff means they aren't getting their morality from the Bible (or any Abrahamic religious text).
RickyBobby wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:30 amwhether you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God or not, as a guide it helps live that life as above.
Have you even read the damn book?
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RickyBobby wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:30 am There are a lot of religious people, and they are the problem, because true Christianity is a relationship not a religion. Religion is all rules and law and tradition. Relationship is love and grace commitment and faith.
That's beautiful - seriously. I'm going to steal it and turn it into a meme, and become rich with Internets...

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A lot of RB's posts resonate. I truly hope RB is no sociopath.
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newkidontheblock wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:44 am
pczz wrote:Funny, I thought Catholics come under the heading of Christian. You might like to ask the pope about the rape bit!
Bad apples exist in any organized religion. Catholicism is one of the largest religions in the world that have a single unified structure and leader. Plus it’s politically fashionable to find wrong with the Catholic Church.

The pope is addressing it and weeding out the bad apples and behavior. Publicly.

It takes the bold to accuse a politically correct religion of bad behavior.

Stop bashing only Catholics.

Publicly and loudly go after some socially and politically correct organizations and see what happens.
What utter Bullshit. I used to work in Social services 40 years ago when the church was covering up child abuse and it still is. It is endemic and what little action the pope is taking is just too little too late
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