American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Brody » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:50 am

Tarndog wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:39 am
But I can't help but believe the Khmer guy with him was absolutely no help. Absolutely the worst person to be there would be a Khmer.

Hey don't be so harsh.

This Khmer guy was able to successfully talk this troubled tefl jobber off the ledge of a local school.

Albeit, with promises to finally pay him all the months worth of back wages he was due.

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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Cinnamoncat » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:35 pm

Cultural differences, most certainly with this sort of issue, are huge. You can't blame the Khmer fellow anymore than you can blame yourself for not being there. Steven went out on his own terms.

Rest in peace.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by John Bingham » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:38 pm

Tarndog wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:39 am
Absolutely the worst person to be there would be a Khmer.
I wonder what people like you are even doing here when you hate everyone and everything so much.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Cam Nivag » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Cinnamoncat wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:35 pm
Steven went out on his own terms.

He didn't go out on his own terms if he wasn't going to jump but then tried to get away from someone grabbing at him and fell to his death.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Tarndog » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm

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He didn't go out on his own terms if he wasn't going to jump but then tried to get away from someone grabbing at him and fell to his death.
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In the video, it appeared to me the 'attempt to grab him' was after he had begun his leap. How effective was that ever gonna be?
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Tarndog » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:04 pm

Cinnamoncat wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:35 pm
Cultural differences, most certainly with this sort of issue, are huge. You can't blame the Khmer fellow anymore than you can blame yourself for not being there. Steven went out on his own terms.

Rest in peace.
True enough. Just sayin'.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Tarndog » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:08 pm

John Bingham wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:38 pm
Tarndog wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:39 am
Absolutely the worst person to be there would be a Khmer.
I wonder what people like you are even doing here when you hate everyone and everything so much.
Didn't realize you knew me so well to make that comment. Why I'm here is my business, as why you're here is your business.

The way you jump to conclusions makes me wish you don't find yourself on a ledge someday, too.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Brody » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:21 pm

Cam Nivag wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:40 pm
Cinnamoncat wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:35 pm
Steven went out on his own terms.
He didn't go out on his own terms if he wasn't going to jump but then tried to get away from someone grabbing at him and fell to his death.
Tarndog wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:03 pm
In the video, it appeared to me the 'attempt to grab him' was after he had begun his leap. How effective was that ever gonna be?
I don't think Cam gives a shit either way...sometimes he enjoys being a contrarian just for shits and giggles.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Cam Nivag » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:43 pm

I hand't seen the video, that's the problem with this stupid policy of spitting thread between here and the Darknet.

Having looked at the video now, it appears he's sitting on the ledge and then there's screaming while someone is reaching at him from one side and someone else is coming up from behind him. Then he jumps. Certainly it would be classified as suicide, but this may be one of many foreigner deaths in Cambodia that wouldn't have happened if the local cops or business owners weren't totally incompetent.

If they had left him alone instead of forcing the issue he might have just come back inside.
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Re: American Steven Simonsen Jumps to his Death From 4th Story on Street 136 in Phnom Penh (Next to Spider-Man Bar)

Post by Brody » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:10 pm

Cam Nivag wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:43 pm
this may be one of many foreigner deaths in Cambodia that wouldn't have happened if the local cops or business owners weren't totally incompetent.
Incompetent at what? Negotiating with a potentially suicidal person? Would you consider yourself competent to do so?

I'm sure if the incident was reversed and no one appeared with the man on the ledge, then you'd be decrying heartless Cambodians.

So what would the correct course of action have been? Just leave him be and quietly stack mattresses around the perimeter of the hotel grounds, whilst hoping for the best?
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