TOG wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:01 am What you seem not to understand is the concern that Brussels have about trade with the UK. If we have trade agreements with other countries that allow goods into the UK at lower rates than the EU, Brussels is worried that those goods will find their way into the EU thus undercutting EU tariffs. That is why Brussels are insisting on a border at the sea and they are the ones who will not allow a borderless N.Ireland. Our stance is that we can handle this with paperwork and electronic tracking of goods. It is the EU who will not allow this and are insisting on the backstop as a way of circumnavigating the issue.

Kammekor wrote:

TOG wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:31 am Has no one noticed that the EU offered nothing? All they did was to keep on saying to May's team (May herself most of the time) what are you prepared to pay us and put some proposals on the table so that we can reject them. The EU offered nothing constructive. You would have thought that with such an important decision, they all would have been sitting down working out how best to orchestrate the withdrawal.

The EU agreed on a safety net for a hard Brexit, the UK not (yet)...

Who's rejecting what?

TOG wrote:. It's the Irish question that the EU are using as blocker. If they wanted, the EU could easily agree with the UK a borderless Ireland, they don't want to. Ireland want to see a unified Ireland and see this as a way of achieving it. Push the border back to the sea and absorb Northern Ireland. Of course, they are not brave enough to actually come out and say this.

TOG wrote:@ khmerhamster

It would help ifr you kept your comments to one post rather than many, it is hard to follow that way.

Define border. Soft, hard or whatever.

It is the the EUs interest to sit down and work out terms, not just sit down, talk, read and reject.

It is the ultimate goal of the Republic of Ireland to unit the whole island. After three tours of N.I and years of listening/watching the various politicians and sides, I think I am well qualified to comment on what the Republic of Ireland want, and it is not a separated island.

You sound so depressed, a good reason to accept what has happened and make the best you can out of it. Your negativity will only make you even more depressed. As the saying goes, When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I happen to like lemons and lemonade so I am not depressed either way. Don't forget that the majority of voters in this country had to live with an EU they did not vote for for over 25 years and just got on with life until Brussels went too far.

TOG wrote:

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:47 pm Stop trying to be a know-it-all, you are far from it.

It#'s a forum where you state your views.

Have I called you a know it all? You are entitled to your views just as everyone on the forum is entitled to theirs.

It's not my fault that you are wrong and in the minority, you have to live with that.

Geiing back to the thread title,. Nope, Brexit will not hurt me in anyway as I have already factored in what may happen short term and then long term and made arrangements. And when I think of all of those Project Fear stories, World War 3, triple bounce in the economy and I am sure some thought they would see the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Where are we? More growth than the EU, higher employment figures, no WW3 or bubonic plague so excuse me if I do not for one minute believe any figures from Carney or the IMF about the UK being doomed. They have constantly got it wrong over the UK economy.

As for Ireland and N. Ireland. Do you honestly think that the Republic do not want to see a united Ireland? A united Ireland would solve everything just as the Republic leaving the EU would.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/polit ... endum-poll
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKBN1OB1VV
https://www.politico.eu/article/no-deal ... an-oneill/
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 75256.html