used idiom

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:45 pm

I was talking with my wife and her niece this morning when that young relative excitedly informed us she had just bought "turasapdai kalip muy, tai thauk min.." (a quality mobi, but very cheap.)

Since I'm looking for a new phone I pressed her for more details. She said it was a good price because it was " m'teuk"; now of course I know the usual meaning of " teuk" but I'd never heard it used in that context. It turns out that it means used just like " joju" except it only used with mechanical objects. Please note that this is
spoken only. Joju is used for clothes for example.

pczz · Post by **pczz** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:11 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:45 pm I was talking with my wife and her niece this morning when that young relative excitedly informed us she had just bought "turasapdai kalip muy, tai thauk min.." (a quality mobi, but very cheap.)

Since I'm looking for a new phone I pressed her for more details. She said it was a good price because it was " m'teuk"; now of course I know the usual meaning of " teuk" but I'd never heard it used in that context. It turns out that it means used just like " joju" except it only used with mechanical objects. Please note that this is
spoken only. Joju is used for clothes for example.

Its cambodia, phone was cheap, maybe the correct translation is "stolen", "borrowed' or "pawned" =)

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:31 pm

"ts cambodia, phone was cheap, maybe the correct translation is "stolen", "borrowed' or "pawned" =)"

1. No, I married into a good family.
2. No it was compared and contrasted
to joju.
3. It was purchased from a dealer.

pczz · Post by **pczz** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:55 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:31 pm "ts cambodia, phone was cheap, maybe the correct translation is "stolen", "borrowed' or "pawned" =)"

1. No, I married into a good family.
2. No it was compared and contrasted
to joju.
3. It was purchased from a dealer.

Sorry, I did not mean to imply anything negative about your family. Second hand goods are very dodgy in KOW, wherever they come from because there is so much thieving of phones and computers here.

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:17 pm

pczz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:55 pm
taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:31 pm "ts cambodia, phone was cheap, maybe the correct translation is "stolen", "borrowed' or "pawned" =)"

1. No, I married into a good family.
2. No it was compared and contrasted
to joju.
3. It was purchased from a dealer.
Sorry, I did not mean to imply anything negative about your family. Second hand goods are very dodgy in KOW, wherever they come from because there is so much thieving of phones and computers here.

Look, my interest is in dealing with problems of translation, with an emphasis on idiomatic usage. Even if the phone fit your suspicions of illegality it wouldn't change the meaning of m'teuk since it was used. Apology accepted, let's move on.

CBEQ · Post by **CBEQ** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:50 pm

My wife said m'teuk just means second hand for everything. She said joju means 3rd, 4th, or 5th hand.

Barang chgout · Post by **Barang chgout** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:56 pm

My missus says interchangeable.

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taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:04 pm

CBEQ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:50 pm My wife said m'teuk just means second hand for everything. She said joju means 3rd, 4th, or 5th hand.

I was given to understand differently, by 3 educated native speakers. It may be a matter of locality; meaning can be fluid. In any case I will stick to my understanding and you will doubtlessly rely on your authority.

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:28 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:45 pm I was talking with my wife and her niece this morning when that young relative excitedly informed us she had just bought "turasapdai kalip muy, tai thauk min.." (a quality mobi, but very cheap.)

Since I'm looking for a new phone I pressed her for more details. She said it was a good price because it was " m'teuk"; now of course I know the usual meaning of " teuk" but I'd never heard it used in that context. It turns out that it means used just like " joju" except it only used with mechanical objects. Please note that this is
spoken only. Joju is used for clothes for example.

haha i can help out with this one, as its quite simple when you know...
Mouy Dtuk (or as she colloquially put it M'Dtuk) is simply មួយទឹក,
Dtuk as well as water, also means "Round" (in a boxing match) មួយទឹក Mouy Dtuk = One Round (in boxing),
so basically the phone has been owned once before (only done one round) and you are now the 2nd owner

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:36 pm

to add to the above, ive stopped this video where you can see the sign, [ទឹកទី 1] - [Dtuk Ti 1] and with the commentator saying a number of times "Dtuk Ti Mouy" = 1st Round...

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