Any French people who speak Khmer?
Any French people who speak Khmer?
If there are any French people who speak Khmer and participate in this forum, I would be interested to know, if you learn Khmer using the French spelling, how close is the pronunciation to the way Cambodian people speak?
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
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i have always looked for a khmer teacher who could speak and write thai , but never found one - i was kicked out of my cambodian class for being ' thai ' -
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
As shitty as english one. Did you ever hear French speak Khmer ? Clue, they sound the same in english.
There might be some video on youtube.
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I speak French fluently. I used a combination of French/English and German for the sounds when I first started. I'd say French is much closer than English in terms of closeness to the sounds (a, r, é, è etc). Cambodians also tend to sound good when they speak French (no/fewer consonant sounds at the end of words like English). I didn't use any of the "official" spellings, as they don't sound the same as French either. I just made my own symbols for short and long vowel sounds and so forth. I think Khners are the ones who romanized a lot of those dictionaries. There's a really good book by a French doctor which has good romanization for French speakers (along with Khmer script). I'd say it's the best/closest romanization system I've seen. Still, I'd sometimes spell things differently myself, so it's best to hear a word yourself then romanize it yourself. Khmer script is best, but then a lot of people who rely on that end up speaking really unnaturally according to Khmers I know. Overpronouncing words in-a-very-ro-bo-tic-way.
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@Barang_doa_slae is french and speaks khmer
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
exactly this,Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:07 pm Still, I'd sometimes spell things differently myself, so it's best to hear a word yourself then romanize it yourself. Khmer script is best, but then a lot of people who rely on that end up speaking really unnaturally according to Khmers I know. Overpronouncing words in-a-very-ro-bo-tic-way.
i looked around online when i first started learning and there were so many differences in how people would Romanize words, i just started doing it myself and created my own system, until i learnt how to read khmer so didnt have to rely on that anymore so now just Romanize it the same way Khmers do as its a nice simple form,
haha and youre right about the over-pronouncing,
cant actually remember the last time i actually pronounced ខ្ញុំ as Khnyom
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
I noticed this in the Wikipedia.
On 9 March 1945, during the Japanese occupation of Cambodia, young king Norodom Sihanouk proclaimed an independent Kingdom of Kampuchea, following a formal request by the Japanese. Shortly thereafter the Japanese government nominally ratified the independence of Cambodia and established a consulate in Phnom Penh. The new government did away with the romanisation of the Khmer language that the French colonial administration was beginning to enforce and officially reinstated the Khmer script.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cambodia
It seems, at one time Khmer was written using the French alphabet.
Vietnamese was too, and still is.
On 9 March 1945, during the Japanese occupation of Cambodia, young king Norodom Sihanouk proclaimed an independent Kingdom of Kampuchea, following a formal request by the Japanese. Shortly thereafter the Japanese government nominally ratified the independence of Cambodia and established a consulate in Phnom Penh. The new government did away with the romanisation of the Khmer language that the French colonial administration was beginning to enforce and officially reinstated the Khmer script.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cambodia
It seems, at one time Khmer was written using the French alphabet.
Vietnamese was too, and still is.
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
Plus there are other vowels such as the "o" in école and the vowels in "soeur" and "leur". which most closely approximate Khmer vowel sounds which are non-existent in English.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:07 pm I speak French fluently. I used a combination of French/English and German for the sounds when I first started. I'd say French is much closer than English in terms of closeness to the sounds (a, r, é, è etc). Cambodians also tend to sound good when they speak French (no/fewer consonant sounds at the end of words like English). I didn't use any of the "official" spellings, as they don't sound the same as French either. I just made my own symbols for short and long vowel sounds and so forth. I think Khners are the ones who romanized a lot of those dictionaries. There's a really good book by a French doctor which has good romanization for French speakers (along with Khmer script). I'd say it's the best/closest romanization system I've seen. Still, I'd sometimes spell things differently myself, so it's best to hear a word yourself then romanize it yourself. Khmer script is best, but then a lot of people who rely on that end up speaking really unnaturally according to Khmers I know. Overpronouncing words in-a-very-ro-bo-tic-way.
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Re: Any French people who speak Khmer
Explorer, you make all kinds of wrong assumptions. The Vietnamese alphabet has nothing to do with the French alphabet.
It's based on mainly on Portuguese and has some Italian, Greek and Latin influences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_alphabet
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