Sihanoukville, Seen Through the Eyes of a Chinese Blogger

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fax wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 am
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phuketrichard wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:40 am wtf??
copying and posting a story from a rival website
News comes from many sources. The source link is in the OP.
Cambodia News English translated the original article and cited the source. It's literally their translation probably why they call it EXCLUSIVE.

Your so called CEO News shamelessly copy pasted CNE's English translation and linked the Chinese original source. http://share.58cam.com/wap/thread/view- ... HOBh1bOP8Q

This is not news it is plagiarism as usual on here. Let's be honest, you're not linking to CNE because of personal issues with the people who own that site.
No, that is not true. The original source was translated from Chinese by CEO. If the translation here is the same as another news source, it must be because they used the same translation service as CEO did. ie. Google translate. Google translation is not the exclusive property of one site or another.
If possible, CEO prefer to translate from the original news source and that is what happened.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:48 am Google translation is not the exclusive property of one site or another.
How about all those pictures and videos you watermarked and pretend it's exclusively yours? You didn't earn your reputation for nothing.
Cam Nivag wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:30 am They do everything they possibly can to conceal the original sources of their "news," unless they copy something from Cambodia News English, then they will provide a link not to what they copied but to CNE's original foreign language news source.
And if we ignore everything else that you said about the actual translation then this part of your post is actually truth but the rest you sort of made up right?
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:48 am they used the same translation service as CEO did.
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Every time I post a link to Cambodia News English a moderator removes the link leaving no indication that my post has been edited.

Guys, this is the internet ffs. The PRC practices of censorship that you're toying with here backfires every single time in the information driven age. I invite you to stop.
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fax wrote:Every time I post a link to Cambodia News English a moderator removes the link leaving no indication that my post has been edited.
Note: Your posts have been edited. (Happy now?)

Let's get a few fax straight...

1. CEO used to allow links to 440. They stopped, so we stopped.

2. We always allowed links to KoonKhmer News as we generally have a pretty fair policy of allowing links to damn near anywhere on the net.

3. CEO does NOT allow links to CNE for the simple fact that the owner has been going around maliciously spreading 100% false and baseless pedo rumors about me. And I'm not talking 'bar talk' where it's just him saying this or that, I'm talking about going out of his way to contact someone who was already harassing me all over the place online and telling them completely made up lies that I'm some pedo and have also blackmailed him over naked pictures with his wife.

We do everything we can to make sure everything we post is as accurate as possible, yet the owner of CNE goes around maliciously spreading defamatory statements about his competitors that he knows and acknowledges aren't true, and we're the bad guys?

I don't have much faith in anyone who claims to bring you the news yet at the same time is going around spreading lies about competitors. That's not a person who should be the source of anything labeled 'news' in my opinion.

4. Two sites use the same source to GOOGLE TRANSLATE an article and we're somehow the bad guys, lol. Ok, seems totally fair.
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General Mackevili wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pm 1. CEO used to allow links to 440. They stopped, so we stopped.
4who?
General Mackevili wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pm 3. CEO does NOT allow links to CNE for the simple fact that the owner has been going around maliciously spreading 100% false and baseless pedo rumors about me. And I'm not talking 'bar talk' where it's just him saying this or that, I'm talking about going out of his way to contact someone who was already harassing me all over the place online and telling them completely made up lies that I'm some pedo and have also blackmailed him over naked pictures with his wife.
I wouldn't like that either and wouldn't want to associate with any of that but what does it have to do with me posting news links on a forum? Imagine if Trump said something bad about Zuckerberg so Zuckerberg deleted everything about Trump from his platform as revenge. It would be a pretty shit platform, people would say things like "oh man can you believe it we can't discuss Trump news because Zuckerberg and Trump have some beef".
General Mackevili wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pmI don't have much faith in anyone who claims to bring you the news yet at the same time is going around spreading lies about competitors. That's not a person who should be the source of anything labeled 'news' in my opinion.
Isn't a platform provider supposed to be neutral? If my mailman only delivered me what he in his opinion considered mail I wouldn't be getting all my mail so I'd have to look for a new mailman.

Oh man... The faith... and the news. And that person. He lied! He said he didn't use Google Translate at all! I don't know man, is this the sort of person who should be the source of news? Just busting your balls, but that lie was weird man.
General Mackevili wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pm 4. Two sites use the same source to GOOGLE TRANSLATE an article and we're somehow the bad guys, lol. Ok, seems totally fair.
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:48 am The original source was translated from Chinese by CEO. If the translation here is the same as another news source, it must be because they used the same translation service as CEO did. ie. Google translate. Google translation is not the exclusive property of one site or another.
If possible, CEO prefer to translate from the original news source and that is what happened.
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Did CNE really just google translate a Chinese blog and call that “exclusive”? If so I don’t see anything wrong with ceo doing the same.
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General Mackevili wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pm
2. We always allowed links to KoonKhmer News as we generally have a pretty fair policy of allowing links to damn near anywhere on the net.
Not really. When you copy and translate news articles from local sources you will delete any links to all those local sources, in attempt to deprive those local news sources of clicks and give a false impression that this site is the source of the news. It’s a dick move.

Khmer reporters and papers are busting their asses and spending time and money to respond to scenes of incidents, interview witnesses, and write up and publish descriptions of events. Then you copy it and translate it and repackage it as “CEO news” while prohibiting anyone from pointing out that someone else deserves some credit.
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Cam Nivag wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:08 pm Did CNE really just google translate a Chinese blog and call that “exclusive”? If so I don’t see anything wrong with ceo doing the same.

Judge for yourself. I don't read Chinese, but at least I'm honest about it.
Here we have 1/The source in Chinese 2/ CNE "exclusive translation" 3/ Google translation 4/ CEO News using GT
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SOURCE:
1/ 赌场、妓院、诈骗,被中国人玩坏了的西哈努克港
昨天 14:43 柬埔寨头条 柬单网

来到柬埔寨的西哈努克港已经整整十天,我走遍了全城各个角落,见闻与感触颇多。在这个中国人的法外之地,有关赌博、性交易、杀戮等等疯狂的剧目每天都在上演。让人想起狄更斯所作《双城记》的序言——
这是最好的时代,也是最坏的时代;
人们正在直登天堂,人们正在直坠地狱。
东南亚的疯狂中国城

以柬埔寨亲王姓氏命名的西哈努克港,原本是一座安静美丽的港口城市。沙滩海浪、休闲生活以及超低消费,吸引了全球游客。如今这座城市风华不再,取而代之的是中国人开设的实体赌场、网络博彩基地、会所妓院、电信诈骗中心,以及满城的沙县小吃。
走在西哈努克街头,你会有一种强烈的没有出国的错觉。中国人开设的商店遍布主城的每一条街道,中国人的身影更是无处不在。
沙县小吃、兰州拉面、网鱼网咖、泰康诊所、如家宾馆、好又多超市、川味调料批发、鼎红会所、天上人间……凡涉及中国人衣食住行性的行当应有尽有。



2/CNE translation
Casinos, Brothels, Scams, Sihanoukville- Broken by the Chinese

[*This comes from a well-known Chinese language blogger, who for obvious reasons keeps prefers to remain anonymous, but writes as “Not Far From The Distance”]

I came to Cambodia ‘s Sihanoukville Port for full ten days. I traveled to every corner of the city, gaining knowledge and feeling a lot.

In this extraterrestrial place of the Chinese, crazy dramas about gambling, sex trade, killing, etc. are being performed every day, reminiscent of the preface to Dickens’s A Tale of Two Cities -This is the best of times and the worst of times; People are going straight to heaven, people are falling to hell.

Crazy Chinatown in Southeast Asia

The port of Sihanouk, named after the King of Cambodia, was originally a quiet and beautiful port city. Beach waves, leisure life and ultra-low consumption attracted global visitors. Nowadays, the city is no longer a hotspot, instead , it is a physical casino opened by the Chinese, a network betting base, a clubhouse brothel, a telecom fraud center, and a Shaxian snack bar in the city.

Walking on the streets of Sihanouk, you will have a strong illusion of not leaving the country (*China). The shops opened by the Chinese are located in every street of the main city, and the Chinese people are everywhere. Shaxian snacks, Lanzhou noodles, net fish net coffee, Taikang clinic, Rujia hotel, good and many supermarkets, Sichuan flavoring wholesale, Dinghong club, heaven and earth… everything that involves Chinese food, clothing and accommodation is available.

2/ Google Translation
Casinos, brothels, scams, Sihanoukville, which was broken by the Chinese
Yesterday 14:43 Cambodia headline

I have been to Sihanoukville Port in Cambodia for ten days. I have traveled all over the city, and I have heard and felt a lot. In this extraterrestrial place of the Chinese, crazy dramas about gambling, sex trade, killing, etc. are being performed every day. Reminiscent of the preface to Dickens's A Tale of Two Cities -
This is the best era and the worst of times;
People are going straight to heaven, people are falling to hell.
Crazy Chinatown in Southeast Asia

The port of Sihanouk, named after the Prince of Cambodia, was originally a quiet and beautiful port city. Beach waves, leisure life and ultra-low consumption have attracted global visitors. Nowadays, the city is no longer a hotspot. Instead, it is a physical casino opened by the Chinese, a network betting base, a clubhouse brothel, a telecom fraud center, and a Shaxian snack in the city.

Walking on the streets of Sihanouk, you will have a strong illusion of not leaving the country. The shops opened by the Chinese are located in every street of the main city, and the Chinese people are everywhere.
Shaxian snacks, Lanzhou noodles, net fish net coffee, Taikang clinic, Rujia hotel, good and many supermarkets, Sichuan flavoring wholesale, Dinghong club, heaven and earth... everything that involves Chinese food, clothing and accommodation is available.

3/ CEO Translation Using Google Translate
Casinos, brothels, scams, Sihanoukville, which was broken by the Chinese
Yesterday 14:43
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I have been to Sihanoukville Port in Cambodia for ten days. I have traveled all over the city, and I have heard and felt a lot. In this extraterrestrial place of the Chinese, crazy dramas about gambling, sex trade, killing, etc. are being performed every day. Reminiscent of the preface to Dickens's A Tale of Two Cities -
These are the best of times and the worst of times;
People are going straight to heaven, people are falling to hell.
Crazy Chinatown in Southeast Asia
Image
The port of Sihanouk, named after the Prince of Cambodia, was originally a quiet and beautiful port city. Beach waves, leisure life and ultra-low consumption have attracted global visitors. Nowadays, the city is no longer a hotspot. Instead, it is a physical casino opened by the Chinese, a network betting base, a clubhouse brothel, a telecom fraud center, and a Shaxian snack in the city.
Walking on the streets of Sihanouk, you will have a strong illusion of not leaving the country. The shops opened by the Chinese are located in every street of the main city, and the Chinese people are everywhere.
Shaxian snacks, Lanzhou noodles, net fish net coffee, Taikang clinic, Rujia hotel, good and many supermarkets, Sichuan flavoring wholesale, Dinghong club, heaven and earth... everything that involves Chinese food, clothing and accommodation is available.
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Cam Nivag wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:30 am
fax wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 am
Username Taken wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:54 am
phuketrichard wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:40 am wtf??
copying and posting a story from a rival website
News comes from many sources. The source link is in the OP.
Cambodia News English translated the original article and cited the source. It's literally their translation probably why they call it EXCLUSIVE.

Your so called CEO News shamelessly copy pasted CNE's English translation and linked the Chinese original source. http://share.58cam.com/wap/thread/view- ... HOBh1bOP8Q

This is not news it is plagiarism as usual on here. Let's be honest, you're not linking to CNE because of personal issues with the people who own that site.
The weird thing here is that this site's ordinary practice is to translate Khmer articles and not post the original source links and to even delete the source links if someone posts them. They do everything they possibly can to conceal the original sources of their "news," unless they copy something from Cambodia News English, then they will provide a link not to what they copied but to CNE's original foreign language news source.

Now, that said, "Bong Burgundy" on TOF has copied CEO translations also and posted them on TOF from time to time without crediting CEO.
were NOT talking about that other forum,
we are talking about CEO
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