Conflict Between Villagers and Conservation NGO 'Wild Alliance'

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The land is clearly demarcated and officials (local and state) are aware. WLA is enforcing this government mandate. They are not appropriating land for themselves.
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One of their head barang rangers found himself and his crew arrested just last year for doing the same. Apparently.
Wild alliance are playing a losing game and being heavy handed about it.
Do themselves no favors.

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jw85 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:10 pm
135 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am It’s not their land. It’s land they’ve just decided to occupy and grow crops on or put up a shack.
Tough.
do you have proof of this? and that the ngo never appropriated any of their land? just asking
It is very common for people in Cambodia to occupy land, put up a cheap house, and live there for a while. They then sell the property, and look for another place to do the same thing.

If you ever go past Otres 2 and continue to where there is very little development, there is a military post set up to prevent people from coming in and occupying land.
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Stupid people needing somewhere to live. They can't just grab land and live on it like the whole country did in the 80s where every single land title in this country comes from in the first place. Don't they understand that somebody else wants this land to errrr what does Wildlife Alliance do again besides paying no tax for its eco resorts?
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NGO to compensate villager for cuttng down fruit trees
November 9, 2018
The Wildlife Alliance Organisation will compensate a villager for clearing some of his fruit trees in Koh Kong province’s Koh Kong district on Tuesday, a Provincial Hall official said.

He noted that the villagers were angry with wildlife officials who were led by two foreigners to cut down nearly 100 trees including mangos, durians and other fruits belonging to Mr Thet in the district’s Trapaing Roung commune.

Major General Samkhit Vien, provincial police chief, said yesterday that he heard the Provincial Hall had invited both sides to negotiate.

“The Provincial Hall has already solved this issue, but I do not know the details yet,” he said. “The area belongs to the state and was given to Wildlife Alliance but the villager claimed that his property area was measured by students and he has a receipt to prove that the land is his.”

Pen Vuthea, a monitor with human rights group Licadho, said that Wildlife Alliance officials cut down about 200 fruit trees in Trapaing Roung commune on Tuesday without alerting authorities and the villagers became angry.
“It is not only one villager who had a problem with Wildlife Alliance,” he said. “There are many families living in the area.”

He noted that Wildlife Alliance did not take any action about the fruit trees when the villagers first planted them and waited until they were big before cutting them down.
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explorer wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:25 pm
jw85 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:10 pm
135 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am It’s not their land. It’s land they’ve just decided to occupy and grow crops on or put up a shack.
Tough.
do you have proof of this? and that the ngo never appropriated any of their land? just asking
It is very common for people in Cambodia to occupy land, put up a cheap house, and live there for a while. They then sell the property, and look for another place to do the same thing.

If you ever go past Otres 2 and continue to where there is very little development, there is a military post set up to prevent people from coming in and occupying land.
again; do you have any proof that this happened... in this particular instance?
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NGO to pay farmer $3,000 for cutting down trees
November 12, 2018
A farming family has agreed to receive $3,000 in compensation from the Wildlife Alliance after it cleared the family’s fruit trees in Koh Kong province’s Koh Kong district.

Yorng Tay, the wife of farmer Seng Thet, said by phone yesterday that Wildlife Alliance agreed to pay $3,000 to her and her husband for clearing their fruit trees, including mangos, durians, coconuts, rambutans and mangosteens.

“On Saturday, Wildlife Alliance provided a document of compensation in English but we do not read English and asked them translate it into the Khmer language,” Ms Tay said. “We have not received the $3,000 compensation from them yet.”

Provincial Hall officials had invited both sides to negotiate after the NGOs workers cut down the trees in the district’s Trapaing Roung commune last week.

The trees were on a hectare of land which Mr Thet claimed, but alliance officials said was a protected area.

Ms Tay noted that authorities have not allowed her to cultivate the one hectare of land involved in the dispute, although she had a receipt proving that the land in Trapaing Roung commune belonged to her and her husband after students measured the area for them.

“There were about 500 families in the commune which had problems with Wildlife Alliance over fruit trees planted in the area,” Ms Tay said. “We protested against them and sent a letter to the provincial governor to solve the problem.”
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote:NGO to pay farmer $3,000 for cutting down trees
November 12, 2018
A farming family has agreed to receive $3,000 in compensation from the Wildlife Alliance after it cleared the family’s fruit trees in Koh Kong province’s Koh Kong district.

Yorng Tay, the wife of farmer Seng Thet, said by phone yesterday that Wildlife Alliance agreed to pay $3,000 to her and her husband for clearing their fruit trees, including mangos, durians, coconuts, rambutans and mangosteens.

“On Saturday, Wildlife Alliance provided a document of compensation in English but we do not read English and asked them translate it into the Khmer language,” Ms Tay said. “We have not received the $3,000 compensation from them yet.”

Provincial Hall officials had invited both sides to negotiate after the NGOs workers cut down the trees in the district’s Trapaing Roung commune last week.

The trees were on a hectare of land which Mr Thet claimed, but alliance officials said was a protected area.

Ms Tay noted that authorities have not allowed her to cultivate the one hectare of land involved in the dispute, although she had a receipt proving that the land in Trapaing Roung commune belonged to her and her husband after students measured the area for them.

“There were about 500 families in the commune which had problems with Wildlife Alliance over fruit trees planted in the area,” Ms Tay said. “We protested against them and sent a letter to the provincial governor to solve the problem.”
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They provided an English language letter to a Cambodian farmer? Do they do anything right? That whole NGO should be closed down.
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This seems like a case study in how protecting wildlife without giving local people a means of replacing or at least supplementing their income will end in scenarios like this.
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