Whats good about Phnom Penh?

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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by timmydownawell » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:49 pm

Toxic Turtle wrote:
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John Bingham wrote:
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What's good about PNH?
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EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
I have never seen anyone use COL or QOL on this forum, and your reference to Panama led me to assume you were referring to Colombia... very confusing.
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by Toxic Turtle » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:47 pm

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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by johnny lightning » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:09 am

What the fuck are you on about? Sometimes your posts make sense, other times - not so much.

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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by shnoukieBRO » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:54 pm

Phnom penh is good for many reasons and now a digital nomads favorite. You can Google why.
Add friendly pple and nearby Kampot and other cool places to check out. Cheap beer and close to Vietnam too.
It fits nicely in the Cambodia Vietnam Laos loop which is a kinda cream of crop of SEA countries nearest to Bangkok.
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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by JUDGEDREDD » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:27 pm

Personally I'm looking forward to the paintballing
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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by frank lee bent » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:47 am

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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by Duncan » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 am

One of the good things about living in PP is us older guys can park our Lexus on the footpath right up close to the 7/11 or bar without having to limp all the way down the street .Leaving our walking sticks at home saves a lot of effort.
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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by offroadscholar » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:29 am

Kayve wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:56 pm
Kuroneko wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm
Toxic Turtle wrote:
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am
Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?
Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/
The bridge is hell :assasin:
Good info Kuroneko
Hows the air quality on Chroy Changvar ?
Are there any nice areas around Chroy Changvar to go walking or bicycling ?

Is the bridge traffic mainly an issue for peak hour commute times, or all day ?
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Re: Whats good about PP?

Post by sigmoid » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:58 am

Whats good about nam v. Cambo?

I hear, read, and am under the assumption that nam is more poor but also more honest, loving, natural, cleaner, less whores and more family lifestyle and activities - and natural tourist spots v. fabricated in cambo
This info is not especially accurate, especially "nam is more poor". Generally speaking, VN is more prosperous, has more developed infrastructure, a much larger population (it's a baby factory), better educational system, stronger work ethic, etc. Not sure about more honest, loving and natural? These points may go to Cambodia. I would say it's cleaner in the cities but still has a lot of environmental issues related to garbage and industry. VN are obsessed with family (see below). Wouldn't say there are fewer whores, but that they are somewhat less visible.

In terms of tourism, VN's is growing but they don't really have much to attract visitors. There are a lot of scenic areas but most of the tourism is geared for domestic travelers who just require the basics. So, you can go to some nice beaches or Phu Quoc Island but there's no real scene like Bali, Phukhet, Pattya, Vang Vieng, Sihanoukville of yore, etc. There will just be some crones in conical hats selling squid grilled on a stick on a portable charcoal barbecue.

The main thing to understand about Vietnam is that, although geographically located in Southeast Asia, culturally it's much closer to North Asia. For example, while Myanmar, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia celebrate the New Year in mid-April due to ancient Indian influence, "Tet" in Vietnam is the lunar year aka Chinese New Year. Also, VN's writing system is not derived from India, but was devised by a French guy to replace their use of Chinese characters and increase literacy.

As a result, VNese are into ancestral worship, filial piety, Confucianism, diligence, thrift (spartan), sacrifice (stoic), etc. more than other SEA countries except for Singapore. This causes VN to have little in the way of a fun factor. It's a boring place with bland greasy food and atmosphere that is neither exciting nor relaxing. Most of the expats are retired geezers.

Advantages of VN include low COL, easier cheaper long-term visas, the positive economic situation and development, and stable government without a 'strong man' leader, which make it a somewhat comfortable easy place to reside long-term. The main cities (HCMC & HN) aren't very good though. Also, similar to the whole region, there's tropical weather and most of the people are nice.
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