British Expat Says Son Kidnapped & Believed to be in Siem Reap, Cambodia: $1,000 REWARD

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Re: British Expat Says Son Kidnapped & Believed to be in Siem Reap, Cambodia: $1,000 REWARD

Post by Clutch Cargo »

leeellis2406 wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:59 pm She's the bad person here and all I want is what's best for my son.
So who's the instigator here? Here's the chronology:

You have been the child's guardian for the last 8 mths
The mother had monthly visitation
You threaten to withhold that until the mother gets the birth certificate sorted
Her uncle then 'kidnaps' the child

If you really wanted the best for your child, you would encourage your child to see and get to know his mother.
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leeellis2406 wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:59 pm I understand what you're saying. But I have been his legal guardian for the last 8 months with many witnesses. It will have to go to court I know but I have a good case and just want to find him so the police/authorities can take it from there. She's the bad person here and all I want is what's best for my son. Let the courts decide and then is legal yes? First things first is to locate him so I can let the authorities know of his whereabouts. I really don't want to be arrested for kidnapping him back as I am the principal of a school and have a lot to lose.
Legal guardian? Do you understand there's a big gap between day-to-day life and 'legal'?

This seems your situation, derived from what you have written:

You were in a relationship with a Khmer lady.
She gave birth to a boy (while you were in a relationship with her?).
You might be the biological father of that boy, at least you are convinced you are.
There are no documents to proof you are the father. There's no birth certificate. There's no marriage certificate confirming the relationship. There's no documents from a Cambodian court providing you with some form of custody over the child.
The Khmer girl has abandoned you and wants the boy which is provable her son to be with her family.
You have taken care of a that Khmer boy for the last eight months. Now he stays with the family of your ex girlfriend.

Now take that to court and see what the judges will decide. Don't set your hopes too high.

In court you will have to back up your statements with paperwork. And you have none. All you have is people confirming you were in a relationship with your ex, people confirming she gave birth to a son (while in a relationship with you?) and the fact you took care of the boy for eight months.

No court will take the kid from the mum and her family and give it to you based on this. Not even if she's a druggie.
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Judges, rights, police, court......all that sounds like a europeen solution. And like it's already said: legaly it's not your son. And a DNA test sounds like Star Trek in cambodia.....

For me it sounds more like a money thing. Like the solution of the most problems in cambodia.

go see her parents, try to organize a meeting with her and the parents and explain the future you want to give "your" son.

At the end you'll see that a monthly 1000 $ cash can solve any Khmer problem.

1000 $ are too much ? Sure. But if they think about Money, that's what they will think first.......good luck in trying to do the summ smaller !

you don't have good Cards to play with them !
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Kammekor wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:36 pm You might be the biological father of that boy, at least you are convinced you are.
yeah the thoughts did cross my mind a couple of times in this thread as maybe the reason for her stalling on making the birth certificate and then doing a runner with the kid, was because he might not be...
others have mentioned they thought he looked 100% Khmer but tbh my first impressions were his son did look a bit 50/50%

not sure of the exact process in Cambodia as ive not had a kid here, but @leeellis2406 how come the birth certificate wasnt sorted sooner when the baby was first born? Wouldnt your name have been put on the babies birth certificate straight away? (again not sure of the regular process here) was you not together (as a couple) when she had the baby?
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fax wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:15 pm
It doesn’t sound like you are married. This is to your benefit. Begin the process now with your Sangkat to get the paper certifying that you are unmarried. Do the same with your embassy. You will need this later.

Why is it to his benefit not to be married? In civilized countries, husbands enjoy a presumption of paternity when their wife gives birth, unmarried guys who knock up women have to prove paternity through blood tests.
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frank lee bent wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:54 am well, this forum is not a court of law, Counsellor.
Actually no one even summoned him before us.
He arrived here in his own defense,
He posted on FB and got laid into here by the wannabe kangaroo court.
Don't you get any paid gigs IRL in preference to exercising your legal muscles here on poor unfortunates?
This is not that other place.
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Let me explain to you how this forum works, as you don't seem all that familiar with it.

1. Regular posters post day in and day out about events in Cambodia and sometimes make fun of each other.
2. Occasionally a newbie or non-regular poster will reach a juicy personal crisis in his life and start a thread about that crisis here, desperately seeking advice.
3. This non-regular poster (the "OP") will invariably present only one side of the crisis story, the side of the story that makes him look wonderful. Some posters will express sympathy ("Oh, you poor guy")
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This is how it works, every time.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:11 pm
Kammekor wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:36 pm You might be the biological father of that boy, at least you are convinced you are.
yeah the thoughts did cross my mind a couple of times in this thread as maybe the reason for her stalling on making the birth certificate and then doing a runner with the kid, was because he might not be...
others have mentioned they thought he looked 100% Khmer but tbh my first impressions were his son did look a bit 50/50%

not sure of the exact process in Cambodia as ive not had a kid here, but @leeellis2406 how come the birth certificate wasnt sorted sooner when the baby was first born? Wouldnt your name have been put on the babies birth certificate straight away? (again not sure of the regular process here) was you not together (as a couple) when she had the baby?
As far as I know a birth certificate has to be made up within 30 days of birth.
I can only guess why @leeellis2406 and his ex didn't have one made up within that period of time.
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leeellis2406 wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:59 pm I am the principal of a school
Im just throwing this out there, I am looking for a job.
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Let me explain to you how this forum works, as you don't seem all that familiar with it.
Thanks for that, explains why the other place you formerly modded is thriving.
I guess they ditched you in order to run it even further into the ground.
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leeellis2406 wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:56 pm That's the big argument between me and her "The Birth Certificate" He has my name on the records at the hospital and registered in my family name but she dragged her feet about making the official birth certificate and I sent her my papers 3 months ago so she could do. No sign of the birth certificate so I tried to put pressure on her and told her she can't see him until this document is made. Now she decides to kidnap him. My poor son has had only 1 week of his life away from me when she took him to her mothers. She saw reason 8 months ago that he needs to be in his original environment and I took him back to Poi Pet. I will seek legal council but difficult here because no English speaking lawyers live here.
I tried reading back on the posts but can't work out what age the kid is, but I'll assume he is over a year old. You can get a birth certificate for free from your sangkat but there is a limited window and I believe births are legally required to be registered within a 30 day frame. I made the mistake of thinking the certificate from the hospital was the birth certificate, I think it cost $150 or so to get it a year or so late. Luckily my kid's mother and me have always kept things civil, if your relationship has broken down as much as it sounds and you don't have the paperwork you won't be getting much co-operation from authorities or family members. You'll have to locate his mother and patch things up before you'll get any results.
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