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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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jmagic wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:59 am Cutting down trees may make for less shade, but not higher national temperatures. Also, old people like to complain about everything.
Wrong for Cambodia and any other (sub)tropical forest.

The evapotranspiration in a forest is much higher than in other areas (fields, urban areas), and it has both a local cooling effect and a regional cooling effect.

Of course, one tree hardly makes a difference apart from the shade it provides, but covering a large area with trees does.
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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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Kammekor wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:44 am
jmagic wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:59 am Cutting down trees may make for less shade, but not higher national temperatures. Also, old people like to complain about everything.
Wrong for Cambodia and any other (sub)tropical forest.

The evapotranspiration in a forest is much higher than in other areas (fields, urban areas), and it has both a local cooling effect and a regional cooling effect.

Of course, one tree hardly makes a difference apart from the shade it provides, but covering a large area with trees does.
Bogus information. If so, certainly you can provide actual data to back up your claim. And, "an old man told me so" doesn't count.
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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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jmagic wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:05 pm
Kammekor wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:44 am
jmagic wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:59 am Cutting down trees may make for less shade, but not higher national temperatures. Also, old people like to complain about everything.
Wrong for Cambodia and any other (sub)tropical forest.

The evapotranspiration in a forest is much higher than in other areas (fields, urban areas), and it has both a local cooling effect and a regional cooling effect.

Of course, one tree hardly makes a difference apart from the shade it provides, but covering a large area with trees does.
Bogus information. If so, certainly you can provide actual data to back up your claim. And, "an old man told me so" doesn't count.
First thing that comes up with a google search.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/natur ... ather1.htm
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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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jmagic wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:05 pm
Kammekor wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:44 am
jmagic wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:59 am Cutting down trees may make for less shade, but not higher national temperatures. Also, old people like to complain about everything.
Wrong for Cambodia and any other (sub)tropical forest.

The evapotranspiration in a forest is much higher than in other areas (fields, urban areas), and it has both a local cooling effect and a regional cooling effect.

Of course, one tree hardly makes a difference apart from the shade it provides, but covering a large area with trees does.
Bogus information. If so, certainly you can provide actual data to back up your claim. And, "an old man told me so" doesn't count.
A study done in the US for instance, confirming (sub)tropical forests have an overall cooling effect:

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Fores ... e_999.html

confirmed by another study in 2015:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms7603
Tropical forests show strong daily cooling of −2.41±0.10 °C because of the consistent cooling during both day and night.
With lower albedo, forests absorb more shortwave radiation during daytime (positive shortwave anomalies ΔSW in Supplementary Fig. 3a), potentially leading to a warming effect. However, this net energy gain is offset by a greater latent heat loss via higher ET in forests (positive ΔET, Fig. 3b), resulting in a cooling effect.
Info about preventing (urban) heat islands by using trees:

https://www.epa.gov/heat-islands/using- ... at-islands
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Captain Bonez wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:38 pm Today
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i thought it was hotter than it has been for a while this weekend, it's seemed relatively cool for a few weeks.
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It only seems hotter because we've had a month or more of cooler weather. 34C is not unusual for September.
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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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jmagic wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:05 pm
Kammekor wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:44 am
jmagic wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:59 am Cutting down trees may make for less shade, but not higher national temperatures. Also, old people like to complain about everything.
Wrong for Cambodia and any other (sub)tropical forest.

The evapotranspiration in a forest is much higher than in other areas (fields, urban areas), and it has both a local cooling effect and a regional cooling effect.

Of course, one tree hardly makes a difference apart from the shade it provides, but covering a large area with trees does.
Bogus information. If so, certainly you can provide actual data to back up your claim. And, "an old man told me so" doesn't count.
I love these back up your claim posts, which I can understand. But when you say his is bogus can you back up your statement? Just playing devil's advocate
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Re: Cambodia hotter than before

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Is Cambodia hotter? don't think so yet. Use to regulalry go into 40's in hor season. In fact as far as I can remmber over the last 10 years there has been a lot of variation. I seem to rmember 1 hot season that was only really hot for a couple of weeks and one where it seemd neverending, and bad rainy seasons and not so bad. wetaher is unpredictable because we dont really ubnderstand it
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