Joining the slow lane - is it possible in Phnom Penh? And how does the economics work out?

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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in PP? And how does the economics work out?

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What about teaching in Myanmar? Much better salaries (I get about $2,500 a month for teaching 14 hours a week, plus free 4-star hotel accommodation). It's definitely laid back here, which is one reason why I've been teaching off and on in this country for 6 years.

If my comments have piqued your interest, here's something that might really interest you. I'm employed as a Science and English teacher. But I have just resigned! Nothing bad at all about my employer - I love my job. But i'm heading back to Thailand to start teaching online full-time (I already teach young Chinese students online each evening). The demand for experienced online teachers, and the rates of pay for online work), mean that I can earn more money just teaching online, without the need for in-class teaching. I will be setting up a professional-grade online classroom in some location TBD in Thailand.

I'm leaving my school in Naypyitaw at the end of October, and they will definitely be looking for an experienced NES teacher to replace me.
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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in PP? And how does the economics work out?

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The cost of living in Phnom Penh can be extremely low or extremely high depending on your willingness to change. Everyday items are expensive? Like what? Define what is an everyday item and is it a need or a want?

Edit: similar to what that genius said, you can work evenings 2 - 3 per day in plenty of places. Or you could even do the online teaching thing, even easier, but no work permit.
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Do you have a personal experience as a teacher in a school or uni in PP

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A note to non-teachers about school teaching hours

12 or 15 hours doesn't sound like much if you're not familiar with teaching in a school, where lessons are split up into 45 minute periods and take place in different classrooms. If you don't have school teaching experience but have worked a 'split shift' before you might have an idea. If you've ever taken on more (perhaps evening tuition) you'll find around 20 hours is a very heavy schedule and more than that starts to be the feeling of sleep-work cycle

Teaching hours isn't the whole full time job

On top of this you also have to do lesson planning, marking, test writing, extra-curricular activities, a few events and other stuff. What about the workload and general atmosphere in schools and unis here in PP?

If you have personal experience teaching in a school or uni in PP I'd love to hear from you. Do you have an enjoyable relaxed job in an educational institution working normal hours (ie. you get to spend time with your children in the evenings and on the weekends)?
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So what's not the slow lane for teaching?

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Here's an example of what I've found online:
https://vietnam.craigslist.org/edu/d/es ... g=en&cc=us

"Working hours: 20 teaching hours + 20 office hours
Monday - Friday working schedule, two days off on Saturday and Sunday"

What are office hours? Are they hours that you've got to stay in the office working?

This looks like a very heavy schedule to me plus 20 hours of something else not stated. Needless to say I haven't applied. Experienced teacher's opinions and comments welcome?
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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in Phnom Penh? And how does the economics work out?

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That picture in the ad doesn't look like any Cambodian school I've ever seen.
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Heng Heng Heng wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:43 pm Image
That picture in the ad doesn't look like any Cambodian school I've ever seen.
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Re: So what's not the slow lane for teaching?

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britscienceteacher wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:15 pm Here's an example of what I've found online:
https://vietnam.craigslist.org/edu/d/es ... g=en&cc=us

"Working hours: 20 teaching hours + 20 office hours
Monday - Friday working schedule, two days off on Saturday and Sunday"

What are office hours? Are they hours that you've got to stay in the office working?

This looks like a very heavy schedule to me plus 20 hours of something else not stated. Needless to say I haven't applied. Experienced teacher's opinions and comments welcome?
Stuff being forced to be on the premises one hour for every teaching hour!!
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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in Phnom Penh? And how does the economics work out?

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What's wrong with an employee asking that, violet? Most people work a 40 hour week...why should teachers not? Factory workers here work 48 hours a week and many do overtime.

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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in Phnom Penh? And how does the economics work out?

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Like That Genius, I am rather confused by the OP's reference to a previous thread and my response there. In that case, I was responding to a poster who appeared to believe that he held all the cards when it came to employment and could make all the demands and set conditions that suited him. I was correctly pointing out the diversity of what are described as International Schools here, the qualifications they demand and the salaries and conditions they offer. They are not desperate for teachers, so it's not up to the applicant to set the agenda.
In your case, you should follow the advice of That Genius. Pannassastra or its ilk seem best suited to your needs.
We are currently employing a number of Western teachers with considerable experience at other well known International schools in PP. They have all told me that they are much happier here than they were at their previous schools, so we can't be too bad.
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Re: Joining the slow lane - is it possible in Phnom Penh? And how does the economics work out?

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I have 3 friends all working at the American international High school in Yangon
1 runs the it dept +teaches 2 hours/day, 2 teach (1 primary,1 science/math)
all are Americans
all earn $2,800++all get a free flight to bangkok every 70 days and visa paid for
all get a free flight back to the states once/year
all get 1 2 bedroom apt ( worth apx $2,500/month in Yangon)
1 gets free tuition for his son
the tech guy is the only one without a masters but he has all the experience and letters behind his name
work on campus 8-12, 1-4 monday-friday
Good money over there
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