Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by kiwiincambodia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:43 am

xxxxxxx wrote:
Barang chgout wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am
xxxxxxx wrote:
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Where is Musk and his submarine? Why not just tie ropes to both ends and pull the kids through?
Shit doesn't add up here!
As for Musk, from the graphic being widely used in the press, the rescue sticking point is a submerged 15" wide curved section of cave entrance into the chamber where the team was trapped. Hard to envision any kind of rigid "child size submarine" being able to pass through that. Might as well say, "why doesn't Musk just pull up and rescue the kids with a Tesla?". That one narrow passage would make simply "pulling the kids through" with a rope similarly impossible.
Yeah, fair enough.
Elon's just Muskling in on the publicity and the rope won't work.
But why so few divers? If 18 can only work ,say 8 hours, why not get 54?
It's not like theirs a dearth of saturation divers around. Those boys work in the dark all the time.
It does seem quite odd that the rescue efforts would stop at night and resume in the mornings. It's not like sunlight would improve anything inside the cave. But obviously there are many factors we don't know about. I can only imagine that if continuous active rescuing was possible they would certainly be doing it. There will be plenty of time for criticism after all this drama is over. IF it's because there is a shortage of qualified divers on site then junta heads should roll because surely the Aussies, Brits or many other nations could have had 100 highly experienced Navy divers there within in two days at most.

Just get the last 5 out of that fucking cave! Jesus Christ already.
Maybe they want to bring the boys out at night for their benefit, as long as it’s safe for them to wait another few hours.

These kids and coach have been in near total darkness for several weeks now, coming out into full on sunshine would be quite a shock to the system. They may also want to do this at night to keep the vulture press less able to visibly see and get pictures.

Although I think they are just taking their time and making sure things are done right. Why would they want to keep them in there any longer than needed for any other reason?
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by kiwiincambodia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:49 am

On another note they have started the rescue for today and aiming to get all remaining out today.

Apparently there are heavy rains in the area and they are worried about flooding. Could make the rescue more dangerous and slow it down as well.
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by taabarang » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:06 am

kiwiincambodia wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:49 am
On another note they have started the rescue for today and aiming to get all remaining out today.

Apparently there are heavy rains in the area and they are worried about flooding. Could make the rescue more dangerous and slow it down as well.
Good news for sure. Could you quote the source please. I don't doubt you, but I would like to read it myself.
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by kiwiincambodia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:16 am

It’s all over Twitter.

This is the first one in my feed but there is many more sources as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/asia/tha ... index.html
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by Kuroneko » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:31 am

Barang chgout wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am
xxxxxxx wrote:
Barang chgout wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:10 pm

Where is Musk and his submarine? Why not just tie ropes to both ends and pull the kids through?
Shit doesn't add up here!
As for Musk, from the graphic being widely used in the press, the rescue sticking point is a submerged 15" wide curved section of cave entrance into the chamber where the team was trapped. Hard to envision any kind of rigid "child size submarine" being able to pass through that. Might as well say, "why doesn't Musk just pull up and rescue the kids with a Tesla?". That one narrow passage would make simply "pulling the kids through" with a rope similarly impossible.
Yeah, fair enough.
Elon's just Muskling in on the publicity and the rope won't work.
But why so few divers? If 18 can only work ,say 8 hours, why not get 54?
It's not like theirs a dearth of saturation divers around. Those boys work in the dark all the time.

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There are actually 90 divers in total working on the rescue, the majority of whom are on logistics, and 18 in the actual rescue team: "13 foreign divers and five Thai navy Seals made up the rescue team and were among a team of 90 divers involved in the rescue effort overall"https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -boys-live

The time between each rescue attempt and the number rescued each time is also determined by the constraining factor of organising the replacement air supply following each rescue attempt and the number of tanks required for each extraction:

The head of the rescue mission says their plan is based on bringing four people out each day. That's partly because it takes about 20 hours to re-set all of the oxygen tanks they use inside the cave during the rescues. So it is not clear if all five of those remaining inside will get out on Tuesday. https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/thai- ... e-updates/
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by kiwiincambodia » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:07 am

The mini sub is on location Incase it is needed.

Image

Seriously impressive engineering on such a short time scale.

Let’s hope it’s not needed but this could definitely be used to save lives in the future.

Elon Musk needs to just hurry up and show us the iron man suit we all know he has.
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by Barang chgout » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:10 am

Kuroneko wrote:
Barang chgout wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am
xxxxxxx wrote:
Barang chgout wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:10 pm

Where is Musk and his submarine? Why not just tie ropes to both ends and pull the kids through?
Shit doesn't add up here!
As for Musk, from the graphic being widely used in the press, the rescue sticking point is a submerged 15" wide curved section of cave entrance into the chamber where the team was trapped. Hard to envision any kind of rigid "child size submarine" being able to pass through that. Might as well say, "why doesn't Musk just pull up and rescue the kids with a Tesla?". That one narrow passage would make simply "pulling the kids through" with a rope similarly impossible.
Yeah, fair enough.
Elon's just Muskling in on the publicity and the rope won't work.
But why so few divers? If 18 can only work ,say 8 hours, why not get 54?
It's not like theirs a dearth of saturation divers around. Those boys work in the dark all the time.

Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk
There are actually 90 divers in total working on the rescue, the majority of whom are on logistics, and 18 in the actual rescue team: "13 foreign divers and five Thai navy Seals made up the rescue team and were among a team of 90 divers involved in the rescue effort overall"https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -boys-live

The time between each rescue attempt and the number rescued each time is also determined by the constraining factor of organising the replacement air supply following each rescue attempt and the number of tanks required for each extraction:

The head of the rescue mission says their plan is based on bringing four people out each day. That's partly because it takes about 20 hours to re-set all of the oxygen tanks they use inside the cave during the rescues. So it is not clear if all five of those remaining inside will get out on Tuesday. https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/thai- ... e-updates/
Fair enough then.

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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by Kuroneko » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:18 pm

Final mission underway

Thai authorities have confirmed today’s rescue mission began at 10.08 this morning (local time), with 19 divers going in.

Despite the heavy rain overnight, conditions in the cave haven’t changed much.

Michael Safi reports there was applause in the room as the rescue chief, Narongsak Osatanakorn, the head of the joint command centre coordinating the operation, announced the four boys and their coach will be brought out in the one mission.
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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

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When is the World Cup final? Will they be fit to attend?
"The boys will miss the World Cup. Doctors have said they will spend at least seven days in hospital being treated after their ordeal, which means they won’t be able to take up the offer from the president of Fifa to attend the match in Russia next week."

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Re: Boys soccer team trapped in flooded cave.

Post by Yobbo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:58 pm

Username Taken wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:37 pm
Username Taken wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:29 pm
When is the World Cup final? Will they be fit to attend?
"The boys will miss the World Cup. Doctors have said they will spend at least seven days in hospital being treated after their ordeal, which means they won’t be able to take up the offer from the president of Fifa to attend the match in Russia next week."
There would be a national revolt if those boys don't make it to the cup!

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