The Kep Revival

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This new development of the few Cambodian islands seems what could be worded has the new “in thing".
For the architect and planners, they have certainly got themselves a brand-new canvas too make the spectacular visual drawings of what is too be, something the developers have tipped as apt naming such project development's, being resorts has "ECO Tourism".
This maybe so true in their eyes or even in belief, but the real thing “the island itself” to start with, and not the finished drawing or draft, that too me is of real ecoism. But the word in itself is difficult, so many different ways too look at the word, simplistic “Eco”, being that there are so many meanings and definitions in loosely categorising a word that should itself reflect in our minds as only simplicity.
If you call yourself that of a natural environmentalist, it maybe you would probably prefer the natural environment “untouched” or certainly not interfered with, unless done so in a natural way to help the flora and fauna flourish, in effect with development in the way of too ecosystem, keeping a natural balance would be that of an aim and goal to an environmentalist, and that also of a successful achievement in today’s world.
Cambodia does happen to boast many of the natural environments you may look for, but for many people trudging along the guided tours of what could be called “the most natural of nature environments” such has the jungle treks in the Cardamom forests, has its many dangers, the environment itself, with the somewhat difficult terrain and weather conditions, not forgetting you would be in an untouched place where there is wildlife that too could potently cause you harm. Such, could also be said possibly of some of the Cambodian undeveloped natural islands.
ECO Tourism too many people would be to leave the islands in their natural state, or even go has far has giving them a helping hand with development and management of the natural flora and fauna.
So, again we can look at the developers and planers of the new proposed projects and point of view, his aim I would expect is to offer his potential clients of the new sites of "ECO Tourism", firstly is that of their safety. That would be developing a near too natural development regarding people’s wellbeing.
Basically, I would think “ECO” is a play with wording for development that is attractive, “the in thing” too the potential end customer. What I see with new developments has such, are destinations for the ones of the world that are well off. We see once again that the investors are aiming high for their returns, and it does seem the gambling bug is not easy to let go, but again we will have to see if their aims, and predictions, also the planners of such a project have got it right for this kind of new development, because there is a long way to go before seeing a finished development of such upcoming challengers. Firstly, any proposed plans have that of the natural environments to contend and work with. I would also think these plans of what I may word more being secluded, selected ecoism is not one of today’s easiest new developments.
I think it is overall that of a big challenge, without looking into the rights or wrongs in such plans, I wish all involved with such a difficult project the best of luck.
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October 13, 2021
$10 million Kep coastal road to start in November
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Kep Provincial Administration aims to start upgrading the coastal road linking the city hall of Kep to the Angkol area, south of Kep city.

Construction is scheduled to begin in November this year and is expected to be completed in September 2023. The 11.4-kilometre coastal road will be built using a concession loan of $10.5 million from the Asia Development Bank (ADB).

The project was discussed at a meeting between the administration and ADB representatives in Cambodia held recently.

The coastal road is part of ADB’s Greater Mekong Sub-region Tourism Infrastructure for Inclusive Growth Project phase II.

ADB has provided $30 million in loans to Cambodia to implement three projects in Kep province, including a landfill project, the Koh Tonsay tourism port and the coastal road.

Koh Tonsay port, which sits on Koh Tonsay island, 4.5 kilometres offshore of Kep province, is scheduled to start construction within a month.
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past weeks trucks have been busy going up and down 33a between the white horse and the turn off to the crab market with dirt, making new beaches for the ever growing crowds of Locals that descend here on weekends and holidays> All part of the "plan"

The lot owners are required to fill 100 metres out...in return for the expense of doing this, the lot owners will be given 50 metres of the reclamation.
The remaining 50 metres will be gardens and beach. Wonder if they will "sell" the beachfront off as they have done at the current beach for picnickers.

Meanwhile 33A has been fucked up cause of the weight of the heavy trucks
However...also been told this initial plan may/could change...so...
will wait and see how this plays out
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So Kep is basically ruined right now? I noticed the high levels of smog already. Are these new beaches finished already?
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Easy to make an artificial beach on an open coastline. Not so easy to hang on to all those grains of sand.

- especially if they are not the particular size and composition that would comprise a naturally formed beach at a location with exactly same particular mix of coastal conditions.

Coastal Geography #101.
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dave the wave wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:49 pm So Kep is basically ruined right now? I noticed the high levels of smog already. Are these new beaches finished already?
u jest?? its not smog...its DUST and will only get worse when the rainy season ends
They have ruined one lane of the road between the horse and turnoff to crab market cause of the trucks<
Have heard this will take at least a year
there also paving the sidewalk on the far side of the road.

Lots of building going on in Kep these days


The current kep beach is man made and the sand seems to remain fine
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How long, Rich?

Added sand may erode, because of storms or lack of up-drift sand sources.
Expensive and requires repeated application.
Destroy/bury marine life.
Difficulty finding sufficiently similar materials.

Artificial beaches usually disappear at much faster rates than natural beaches. As a consequence, nourishment must be carried out repeatedly.
Underestimation of such beaches’ lifespans and costs are routine because an optimistic estimate is helpful for the developer in obtaining a favorable cost-benefit ratio for the funder.
Some beaches, such as Wrightsville and Carolina beaches in North Carolina, have been renourished more than 20 times each since 1965. Virginia Beach has been renourished more than 50 times. - cost between $2 million and $10 million per mile.

The most important material characteristic is the sediment grain size, which must closely match the native material. Excess silt and clay fraction (mud) versus the natural turbidity in the nourishment area disqualifies some materials. Projects with unmatched grain sizes performed relatively poorly. Nourishment sand that is only slightly smaller than native sand can result in significantly narrower equilibrated dry beach widths compared to sand the same size as (or larger than) native sand. Evaluating material fit requires a sand survey that usually includes geophysical profiles and surface and core samples

Beach nourishment has significant impacts on local ecosystems. Nourishment may cause direct mortality to sessile organisms in the target area by burying them under the new sand. Seafloor habitat in both source and target areas are disrupted, e.g. when sand is deposited on coral reefs or when deposited sand hardens. Imported sand may differ in character (chemical makeup, grain size, non-native species) from that of the target environment. Light availability may be reduced, affecting nearby reefs and submerged aquatic vegetation. Imported sand may contain material toxic to local species. Removing material from near-shore environments may destabilize the shoreline, in part by steepening its submerged slope.
Related attempts to reduce future erosion may provide a false sense of security that increases development pressure

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Most of the famous beach around the world are "fake" in sense that they drive truck loads of sand to them. Miami being great example. They spend tens of millions each year to truck new sand to their beach. But it's worth it as people come to city because of the beaches and bring more in taxes than the cost of upkeeping beaches.
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Yes, that's right RR.
Not sure how TF the economics, and the management responsibility, will stack up in Cambodia tho'.

The coast is an incredibly dynamic environment.
Sand is lost at every ebbing tide and with every rainstorm - but particularly from the constant sand shifts from "longshore drift" (inshore currents). The longshore drift is particularly strong in the Gulf of Thailand - clockwise in the Dry, counter-clockwise in the Wet.
One storm with suitable matching ancillary conditions can empty a beach in a day.

So think about it..
All that sand being swept away - constantly.
No natural replenishment (obviously, or there would be a natural beach there now)

Who is going to pay for, and manage that? forever.

The beach management industry in the USA has the best engineers (and the most billions to spend, and the highest economic drivers) but even they are really hard pressed keeping their heads above water when trying to push sand uphill.
(pushing shit uphill is actually a very valid corollary here)

A long litany of eternal super expensive fixes.
You see, once the developments go in behind the shaky beach, the pressure for the Gov to constantly pump sand (and untold millions of dollars) for all eternity are set in stone.
Here...... ??
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Hot Rocks Stock Picks of the week

Any prime beach front development block near any dodgy beach somebody has conjured up out of the mud.

step right up, don't be late...


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