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Another example of big vs small

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Unhappy Hour: Bars, other vendors cleared from Phnom Penh’s Wat Botum Park
Rinith Taing and Alessandro Marazzi Sassoon | Publication date 01 May 2018 | 18:58 ICT


Umbrella stands, baskets and signs littered the street running alongside Wat Botum Park on Tuesday, remnants of the popular pop-up bars and restaurants that the city government abruptly forced to close as part of a clean-up campaign.

About 50 Daun Penh district security guards, military police and police on Tuesday afternoon picked up the debris as a group of several dozen sellers and their families gathered to watch under the shade of a tree across the road.

“I’ll have to find another place to sell stuff,” said meatball vendor Hok Sinat, 39. “I’m speechless. I never thought they would do something like that.”

Daun Penh Chief of Administration Chab Dyna said the area would become a parking lot for those who want to exercise or relax in the park just south of the Royal Palace.

“I would like to apologise to all the vendors who used to run business here, but we will no longer allow them to do it,” Dyna said.

District authorities had verbally warned vendors 11 days ago that they would have to leave by May 1 or face eviction. Some 60 vendors had signed a petition delivered to the district and municipality last Friday asking authorities to reconsider the decision to clear the area.

In the past authorities regularly asked vendors to keep the area clean, but they failed to do so, Dyna said. Requests at a town hall meeting held by Chaktomuk commune as well as complaints to the district government on Facebook led Governor Sok Penh Vuth to make the decision to clear the stalls completely, he said.

Dyna said the monkhood had complained about the vendors causing “bad smells and noises” near the Wat Botum pagoda. “Another reason is they caused bad traffic congestion in this area,” said Yos Yuthy, Daun Penh district deputy governor.


According to Yuthy, the district would not push streetside sellers out of other areas unless a complaint was received. “We are following the requests of the people,” he said.

On Monday the Municipality had said the action taken was the enforcement of a city-wide policy banning vendors from parks and sidewalks.

While several vendors on Monday had told The Post that they would defy the orders of police to clear out of the area by May 1, none were seen setting up shop.

“Most of us don’t have the money to rent a stall or house,” said 45-year-old Khieu Chheng Kem who has sold fried rice and noodles by Wat Botum for a decade.

“If we don’t have our businesses we will have to go to work in Thailand or somewhere and foreigners will look down on Cambodia,” she added.

The Daun Penh district deputy chief of administration Chim Vuthy, addresses a crowd of vendors who pleaded with authorities to reconsider clearing the street of their businesses on Tuesday.
Daun Penh district Deputy Chief of Administration Chim Vuthy addresses a crowd of vendors who pleaded with authorities to reconsider clearing the street of their businesses on Tuesday. Alessandro Marazzi Sassoon
Deputy District Administration Chief Chim Vuthy, addressing the crowd, said, “I understand that many of you are poor and need to feed your family, but … you will not get anything standing here, so you should go and find somewhere else to run your business.”

Asked by a woman where locals might now go to eat, Vuthy replied: “They could eat at restaurants.”

Approached by reporters, Vuthy asked, “Can you tell me how to solve it? See, I don’t know what to do either.”

As officials began hosing down the pavement, pointing out to reporters the accumulated black grime from years of cooking oil being dumped on the sidewalk, a policeman over a loudspeaker urged the vendors to go home.

“Please forgive us, go home, find another location,” his voice blared as the crowd slowly dispersed and a rainstorm rolled in.



The elite who have cars get to have parking and small vendors are removed. So a small minority of well off persons who wish to indulge in a spot of exercise.

They also state that this is happening at many other parks. Many people go to the park areas to relax and to eat from these stall holders but will not go to the restaurants as they are too expensive.

Another step in the rise in importance of the wealth opposed to the poor in Cambodia. Sad. =@
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Quote ] On Monday the Municipality had said the action taken was the enforcement of a city-wide policy banning vendors from parks and sidewalks.



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Big vs small? Locals and monks are big? Street vendors are small? Big verses small would be Nike and its local contracted manufacturing bosses breaking up a picket of factory workers. This incident is public interest verses narrow minded selfish middle class peddlers.

People who live there complained because the vendors who pay no rent and have no connections to the area trashed the place as they always do. Disgusting garbage everywhere, rats, roaches, bugs, grease all over the ground, tissues, food, waste. Traffic backed up both ways because they have the road pinched down to nothing. The park pavement around the new public toilet was so blocked off with parked motorbikes and plastic tables and chairs that it was virtually impossible to enter or exit the park there.

It's the same all over, but especially in Daun Penh. Ever see what they do to Street 148 at Psar Kandal? Street 15 at Psar Char? Truly fucking terrible. Buying a cart with wheels doesn't give them any automatic right to use public roads to do business, sorry. Especially when they trash the place and pay no tax.

“I’m speechless."

No you're not. You just whined for at least three sentences.

“Most of us don’t have the money to rent a stall or house”

Sounds like you can't do business then.

I wanted to be a super model, but I just don't have the looks. Sad but true.

"They could eat at restaurants."

Pretty reasonable answer. That's what most of the world does when they don't eat at home. There's certainly no shortage of restaurants here.

“If we don’t have our businesses we will have to go to work"

Join the other 5 billion sweetie. There's no shame in working for a living.

"foreigners will look down on Cambodia”

Surely trashing one of the few public spaces in the city wouldn't cause that. No, going to work would.

Anyway, too late.

LOL

Don't worry, if history is anything to go by they'll be back in there destroying the place again in a few days.
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^^^ Are you saying that you'd like to see the road-side vendors done away with? That would be a sad day when that happens.

They are a big part of the character of Asian cities. They just need to be better managed by the local authorities, and educated about cleaning up after themselves. I'm sure it could work. Would hate to see it go.
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Which "Asian cities" are you talking about? I've only seen unregulated street carts block roads, trash public property, pollute and draw in pests with unhygienic food in underdeveloped Third World countries with poor infrastructure and mass poverty. Nothing to do with Asia, everything to do with underdevelopment and anarchy. Some other places with this "Asian city character" include Kenya, El Salvador and Honduras.

LOL.

Is that what you call "character"? You would have liked Medieval Britain. They threw their shit out the window and into the streets. Talk about character! You could smell it from inside your house. Too bad they eliminated that little bit of culture, eh? Some demanding jerks made them shut it down because they got tired of getting covered with shit when they walked aside before catching the plague.

Does Tokyo lack character? Japan has no character or cultural identity? No, they have a lot of it. They're known around the world for it, as well a top infrastructure, health care, education and public roads. These things are related you know.
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Look at this lack of character.

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So sad isn't it? Almost brings a tear to the eye.. oh wait that was the giant pile of trash on the street in front of my apartment.
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I don't remember seeing any street vendors carved into the bas-reliefs on Angkor Wat. Was I missing that aspect of the culture?

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Probably the character wasn't imported by the barang yet.
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Sounds like you're not really suited to Cambodia if you want to change it to become more orderly.

Tokyo Vs Phnom Penh is like apples vs bananas. Not the same.

You mention bas reliefs then post pics of the countryside. ???

Thailand is famous for its street food.
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All the fruit/veggie vendors along France St. (Street 47) between Wat Phnom and Chroy Changvar bridge were moved out by police more than a month ago. Most of the customers were from the hospitals across the street and the school near the bridge. One morning even saw the police removing business signs from the sidewalk on the same side of that street.

Anyway, what are they trying to achieve? Having sidewalks that could actually be used by someone walking?
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it should be somewhere in the middle ground
1 - there should be a designated area for street vendors
2 - there should be regulated for hygiene practises
3 - there should be proper waste management, local government shld collect rental from vendors in order to facilitate proper waste management
4 - there should be proper space management, i.e. parking of vendors n customers etc
5 - lastly, if they do this, it shld be ENFORCED, which as far as i can see, this is the part where khmers are severely lacking , there are tons of laws already out there, it is just so much easier to write down the law on paper but nobody does anything, pencil pusher much? half arsed much?
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