Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
- John Bingham
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
To quote people who know what they are talking about you should try quoting the authors of the Walrus article's later writing where they revised those figures:dron wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:46 pm
Or to quote people who actually know what they're talking about: "On December 9, 1970, US President Richard Nixon telephoned his national-security adviser, Henry Kissinger, to discuss the ongoing bombing of Cambodia. This sideshow to the war in Vietnam, begun in 1965 under the Johnson administration, had already seen 475,515 tons of ordnance dropped on Cambodia..." Source: https://thewalrus.ca/2006-10-history/
https://apjjf.org/Ben-Kiernan/4313.htmlOur 2006 article, “Bombs over Cambodia,” using the same database and analysis, calculated a figure of 2.7 million tons dropped on Cambodia in 1965-75.15 Our estimate, published in the Canadian magazine The Walrus, and in 2007 in The Asia-Pacific Journal, was widely quoted.
But in 2010 we corrected that estimate, here in The Asia-Pacific Journal. We revised it back down to around 500,000 tons. In doing so we took account of the mistaken technical analysis that had impacted bombing tonnage estimates for both Laos and Cambodia. Holly High had written to Kiernan on January 4, 2010: “I have been working with computer scientists here at Sydney and we have managed to make a fairly responsive database and also account for the anomalies in the data . . . The database covers all of Southeast Asia, and contains many more fields than the data that you were working with, from what I can tell from the data on the Cambodian Genocide Project website. It looks like the data you and others in the UXO business were provided with was a simplified, distilled version of the original SEADAB and CACTA files [combined Pentagon databases entitled “Records About Air Sorties Flown in Southeast Asia,” and “Combat Air Activities”], sorted country by country so that each nation received only “its” records. The original database is much larger: indeed it is simply massive. It is also deeply flawed (some of the data appears to have been corrupted and there are omissions in certain months).”
That's pretty rude, you've already proven that you aren't too well-informed, so how about dropping those ad-hominems?Now, why don't you go back to talk about how you pickled your brain last night or regaling us with more oh so interesting tails of your drunken exploits from way back in the day when Cambodia was like the wild west or whatever you usually post about? You're out of your element here. Living in Cambodia for a long time doesn't make you an expert on history, as you've clearly shown.
None of it matters anyway, wars start for many reasons and the reasons for going into any war are far more important than whichever of your two parties are in power at the time. Blaming the Democrats for the US involvement in WWI and WWII is just bizarre. Ignoring the completely unnecessary and illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003 which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths (if not more) and completely destabilized the Middle East is fine, nobody will notice.
Silence, exile, and cunning.
Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
What year did US military activity begin in Cambodia? Who was president? Which party did he belong to?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
If the succeeding president of a different party did nothing to change it, then they are accomplices.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
lets see how drumpf bully his way into this one
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran ... SKBN1I41CO
iran isnt DPRK for the following reasons
1 - leadership in iran has been in this game longer than rocketman
2 - iran army is more war hardened than chubby's army
3 - and most importantly, iran economy is more survivable DPRK (Destitutes and Paupers eat Road Kills)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran ... SKBN1I41CO
iran isnt DPRK for the following reasons
1 - leadership in iran has been in this game longer than rocketman
2 - iran army is more war hardened than chubby's army
3 - and most importantly, iran economy is more survivable DPRK (Destitutes and Paupers eat Road Kills)
Money is not the problem, the problem is no money
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
all hat and no cattle, as they say in texas
the pres, i mean.
the pres, i mean.
Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
Denuclearization talks about to start and 3 Americans detained in North Korea for many years reportedly about to be freed. If Trump is all hat and no cattle, then Obama and Bush Number Two were hatless, cattleless, pantsless and feckless. Both accomplished nothing regarding the NK issue while cluelessly allowing China to eat America's lunch.frank lee bent wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 4:36 am all hat and no cattle, as they say in texas
the pres, i mean.
Will Trump's method work similarly with Iran? Absolutely not. But the US policy on Iran has been an abysmal failure for some 60 years so no change there, really.
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
people get the government they deserve
at least hitlery did not get in
personally i eschew politics
at least hitlery did not get in
personally i eschew politics
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
Indeed.
A criticism of Trump is often seen as an endorsement of Killary.
Both are devious cretins, imho.
A criticism of Trump is often seen as an endorsement of Killary.
Both are devious cretins, imho.
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at least the dynastic aspirations are broken for now
McCain is dying too
win win
McCain is dying too
win win
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Re: Historic! Trump aces N. Korea
at least drumpf has made the last few presidents looked like the wimpy kid, he shld really wear a cowboy hat in his official white house portraitxxxxxxx wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 4:45 amDenuclearization talks about to start and 3 Americans detained in North Korea for many years reportedly about to be freed. If Trump is all hat and no cattle, then Obama and Bush Number Two were hatless, cattleless, pantsless and feckless. Both accomplished nothing regarding the NK issue while cluelessly allowing China to eat America's lunch.frank lee bent wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 4:36 am all hat and no cattle, as they say in texas
the pres, i mean.
Will Trump's method work similarly with Iran? Absolutely not. But the US policy on Iran has been an abysmal failure for some 60 years so no change there, really.
Money is not the problem, the problem is no money
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