Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by that genius » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:36 pm

When the forest is gone, they will pine for it.

I would put money on Ben getting arrested/ having an accident soon, barangs never win when Khmers complain.

I admire his intentions, but it was doomed from the start.

Some people resent help, it's as simple as that. Yes, it's ilogically bizarre, but this is where we are.

I also suspect the guy collecting signatures may be working for a 'property developer'.

They fear/eat animals and destroy the forest, as John Bingham pointed out.
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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by Khmer Issarak » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:02 pm

AmericanSteve wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:49 pm
wanna bet he gets arrested soon?
He should be arrested and deported. He has no right to force Cambodians to protect their forest if they want to clear it for farmland. I just hope he isn't American because the world just doesn't need another meddlesome Yank.
Yup PP Post from 2015 states that he is an American from Oregon and the wife is Australian. https://www.phnompenhpost.com/couple-ba ... ing-forest
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Post by that genius » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:34 pm

Whether he is a yank or any other is irrelevant...I have met many decent Americans here...I don't like their foreign policy, but if you have not learned to not discriminate, you are a waste of oxygen.
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Post by John Bingham » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:03 pm

It's a sad situation, obviously they care deeply for the environment, but getting into conflicts with the neighbors in the remote boonies is not something I would recommend for foreign families.
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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by YORKIE » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:05 am

What happens after the local poor get there way and turn the forest into rice paddies ?. Maybe Chinese and Vietnamese multinational companies have there evil way, and turn the land into rubber plantations. Do we all get a free condom each ?.
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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by Firefly » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:13 am

Oh dear. Ben not looking great in that vid. Laudable effort but competition a goliath. Not sure mentioning the gov and last tree standing was very wise, even if very true. He has young family, he needs to sort his plan b and c out pronto.
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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by that genius » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:51 am

These kind of situations always remind me of people getting into tight situations and then saying 'I'm an American/whatever citizen', as though that's a get out of jail free card.
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Post by phuketrichard » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:58 am

he is fighting the good fight, although it seems he has some local support, he needs powerful a khmer or the government get behind him. Otherwise, he doesn't stand a chance..
The 6,400-hectare Phnom Tnout forest has an ancient history, where towering trees sprout from a 12th Century stone quarry, in the shadow of Sugar Palm Mountain, and stretch across picturesque valleys, on into the horizon.
Local communities are divided: ardent environmentalists who want the forest to survive for future generations are up against the very loggers and poachers exploiting its valuable wood and wildlife.

Pov Yat, 50, heads a local committee to protect the woodland, and says the Davis' work has already led to a dramatic decline in forest crimes.

"It's good. It helps to take care of our environment and natural resources," Yat says.

Cambodia has the highest rate of deforestation in the world, according to the US-based World Resources Institute, and the Davis family fears that without action now to protect what's left, it will all be destroyed.
The Provincial government has declared Phnom Tnout a "community forest", putting it under the guardianship of the nearby Ta Bos village, with which the Davis family work closely.

However, the central Government has stalled on giving a final approval, and the family have no legal right to the area.
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But they are up against powerful forces.
In 2014, logging tycoon Try Pheap gutted almost all the forest's stock of rosewood.
Mr Pheap is an associate of Prime Minister HE, and holds the honorific title Okhna — bestowed on those who donate more than $130,000 to the state.
Anti-corruption watchdog, Global Witness labelled him a "timber-gangster", and accused him of amassing a vast fortune.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-02/f ... rs/8083854

Related and disappointing..
came out in feb 2018 in PP post
An AK-47 used in the recent murder of three forest patrollers that was recovered from the jungle sits at a police station in Mondulkiri. Environment and NGO officials are considering arming their patrollers to prevent similar incidents in the future. Photo supplied
An AK-47 used in the recent murder of three forest patrollers that was recovered from the jungle sits at a police station in Mondulkiri. Environment and NGO officials are considering arming their patrollers to prevent similar incidents in the future. Photo supplied

The murder last week of three forest patrollers in the Keo Seima Wildlife Sanctuary has put a spotlight on the dangers to conservationists in the face of endemic logging, and reignited a conversation about how best to protect often ill-equipped patrollers.

The deaths have prompted soul searching among stakeholders, particularly over how to train – and potentially arm – forest patrollers, but observers in recent days have said such questions ignore an even thornier issue: how best to tackle widespread forest crimes when those being policed are often police themselves.

Seng Teak, country director for the World Wildlife Fund, said in an emailed statement that a survey by the organisation found that 68 percent of more than 500 rangers polled in the region have faced a life-threatening situation.
https://phnompenhpost.com/national/murd ... -spotlight
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Re: Expat Ben Davis and family, defending Phnom Tnout Wildlife Sanctuary, conflicts with villagers

Post by AmericanSteve » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:21 am

But why is an American leading the charge against powerful interests to save Cambodian forests?
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