StroppyChops wrote:And Noam Chomsky (the debunked 'millennials' educationalist and master of media self-promotion) is relevant... how?

Chomsky the master of media self promotion ? Given the fact that he is the scientist alive that is the most cited in scientific publication, write more than 100 hundred books, numerous scientific publication but is less know to the general public than let say the Baldwin brother, if his goal is self promotion he is clearly very bad at it.

But if it make you happy to believe in a conspiracy be free to believe. Of course that will change nothing to the fact that if I was an American (fortunately not the case) I would not focus so much on the attack but on the politic choice that follow and minor things like :

- Yes that third world country that 10 years ago we completely destroy military ( yes destroy their tank, their plan, their factory almost everything big enough to aim a missile at ect man what a conflict took us the most part of two weeks and we had ONE casualty, a typewriter sprain her wrist ) before putting in place a blocus even more sever than Cuba ( pencil lead forbidden, you can use the lead to enrich uranium) had somehow find a way to organize an attack on US soil ( the aim of the attack not being quite clear, as the benefits for Irak are not really self evident) and to construct weapon of mass destruction.

- Yes we are there to bring democracy in the region, the local are begging for it.

- The patriot act

and so on so on

In brief all those little thing that if they are not as spectacular as the 9/11 event, still have a real impact on the everyday life of U.S citizen ( guess who will pay for the double " why and what are we doing here " wars, I suppose that the fact that HUGE amount of money had been borrow to China is also without any consequence.

ryoon wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:And Noam Chomsky (the debunked 'millennials' educationalist and master of media self-promotion) is relevant... how?

Chomsky the master of media self promotion ? Given the fact that he is the scientist alive that is the most cited in scientific publication, write more than 100 hundred books, numerous scientific publication but is less know to the general public than let say the Baldwin brother, if his goal is self promotion he is clearly very bad at it.

Sorry, you lost me. What? Chomsky is one of the most debunked educationalists of the past decade or so. What IS your point? His 'theories' on millennial learners are based on how smart he perceived his grandchild to be, and spending time with high school kids learning what every educator already knows - schools and education are fundamentally broken. What you may have learned about Chomsky in the first year of an arts degree is corrected in the second year, or the university is teaching material that is decades obsolete. How is this relevant to the topic?

To debunk : To expose or ridicule the falseness, sham, or exaggerated claims of XXX
Exactly what theory are you speaking about ? Chomsky is know for various thing ( among other his expertise on politic which was the reason I am mentioning him in this discussion ) but no educational theory to my knowledge, although he criticize the US educational system .

And end of this discussion (of more precisely of my participation I suspect ) I did some shameful thing in my life but being caught in a debate on a 9/11 conspiracy will not be one of them.

ryoon wrote:And end of this discussion (of more precisely of my participation I suspect ) I did some shameful thing in my life but being caught in a debate on a 9/11 conspiracy will not be one of them.

More than happy for you to have the last word there.

Claims both Airplanes and Thermite Bombs video:
Listen from approx 30:00 to 37:00 minutes. Prior knowledge of attack.

for partisans of any of the various theories of what really happened- by now, everyone has had time to form unshakable opinions on the subject.

debate will not serve to further illuminate the subject.

undoubtedly the world is permanently at war, and the decline seems to be accelerating.

This was new to me.

One thing this anniversary is always good for is exposing the "inside job" nutters.

Milord wrote:Claims both Airplanes and Thermite Bombs video:
Listen from approx 30:00 to 37:00 minutes. Prior knowledge of attack.

WoW, I watched way too much of that.

The guy at the very beginning that introduces her definitely sets the right tone. He is a trip.