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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by philip.smith » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:00 am

Thanks all for the answers. It's an interesting situation that I'll have to give some thought to. I'm not coming here to work, rather I'll be coming to be with my partner until we can leave Cambodia, but would like to still be making an income back home by working remote. I think if I can't do it legally (my employer won't support it if not) I guess my option is to do the EG visa to 'look for a job' and extend while not working remote at all. I don't want to risk future trips back to Cambodia as my partner's family are Cambodian, so not upsetting the Khmer govt. isn't something I want to do.
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by soup » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:40 am

philip.smith wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:00 am
Thanks all for the answers. It's an interesting situation that I'll have to give some thought to. I'm not coming here to work, rather I'll be coming to be with my partner until we can leave Cambodia, but would like to still be making an income back home by working remote. I think if I can't do it legally (my employer won't support it if not) I guess my option is to do the EG visa to 'look for a job' and extend while not working remote at all. I don't want to risk future trips back to Cambodia as my partner's family are Cambodian, so not upsetting the Khmer govt. isn't something I want to do.
Do those of us that do work remotely a favor. Keep your fucking mouth shut.

The last thing any remote worker needs is a pedantic tourist coming in and making it more difficult by raising the question of taxes and legalities.

Many remote workers like to stay off the grid! :evil:
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by RogueAnt » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:01 am

You're not a digital nomad. You're a guy on holiday, visiting his girlfriend and catching up with some work. I presume you pay tax in your home country so there's no need to make this any harder than it needs to be.
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by that genius » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 am

Yep, friend of mine waited 10 months for his work permit to be processed...just in time to apply again.

There is no e-business arrangement at present, afaik.

However, a caveat: in 2010 I applied for a work permit and was told 'no have'/ cannot'.

A few years later I got hit for 8 years backdated penalties.

However, I still don't have a receipt from MoL for that payment, perhaps the price of tea was very high that year.
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by finbar » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:47 am

You're not a digital nomad. You're a guy on holiday, visiting his girlfriend and catching up with some work. I presume you pay tax in your home country so there's no need to make this any harder than it needs to be.
Agreed. Tell your employer you're going to visit family in the remote mountains, and they're late risers.
Do those of us that do work remotely a favor. Keep your fucking mouth shut.

The last thing any remote worker needs is a pedantic tourist coming in and making it more difficult by raising the question of taxes and legalities.
Keeping your mouth shut was all very well and good when you could get the visa.
Now you need a work permit, and therefore a Cambodian employer, to be able to stay at all.
There must be hundreds/thousands working remotely, freelancing, living off investments etc, is everyone just going to leave when their visa runs out, or start doing tourist visa runs, start a company?
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by pczz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:13 am

finbar wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:47 am
You're not a digital nomad. You're a guy on holiday, visiting his girlfriend and catching up with some work. I presume you pay tax in your home country so there's no need to make this any harder than it needs to be.
Agreed. Tell your employer you're going to visit family in the remote mountains, and they're late risers.
Do those of us that do work remotely a favor. Keep your fucking mouth shut.

The last thing any remote worker needs is a pedantic tourist coming in and making it more difficult by raising the question of taxes and legalities.
Keeping your mouth shut was all very well and good when you could get the visa.
Now you need a work permit, and therefore a Cambodian employer, to be able to stay at all.
There must be hundreds/thousands working remotely, freelancing, living off investments etc, is everyone just going to leave when their visa runs out, or start doing tourist visa runs, start a company?
You do not have to start a company. There 3 levels of business entity under the new tax regime. Small, medium and large. if your turnover is under $5000 a month you come under small and can set up much cheaper as a sole trader locally without all the expense and paperwork of becoming a limited company. Equivalent of being a sole trader. If you are over 55 and have independent investments you can get a retirement visa, but it does not allow you to work. I was told if you are under 55 and retired on medical grounds you can still get a retirement visa in Thailand, not sure about here. So many could be legal but don't know how to or don't want to because they do not want to pay tax here or cannot be arsed with the monthly tax routine. The ones who are a bit stuck are the ones who come here every year just for the winter and do not work. Somewhere in this thread it says they can still get a six month looking for work visa without a work permit
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by phuketrichard » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:13 am

retirement extension in Thailand is 50 years old;

IF ur in Cambodia, just 1st year do ur Ordinary visa 30 days and a 6 month EG extension. By than things will have changed again.
If ur working remotely (as many do in thailand), just keep it to yourself... no one goes around checking if ur working on ur computer in ur room or sitting under an umbrella on the beach.
Whose to say ur working or not when u reply to an email, post something for sale on fb, sell a photo etc etc...

Even WORSE case scenario is do visa runs every 2 months, People have been doing that in Thailand for decades...
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by Abc123 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:22 pm

pczz wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:13 am
finbar wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:47 am
You're not a digital nomad. You're a guy on holiday, visiting his girlfriend and catching up with some work. I presume you pay tax in your home country so there's no need to make this any harder than it needs to be.
Agreed. Tell your employer you're going to visit family in the remote mountains, and they're late risers.
Do those of us that do work remotely a favor. Keep your fucking mouth shut.

The last thing any remote worker needs is a pedantic tourist coming in and making it more difficult by raising the question of taxes and legalities.
Keeping your mouth shut was all very well and good when you could get the visa.
Now you need a work permit, and therefore a Cambodian employer, to be able to stay at all.
There must be hundreds/thousands working remotely, freelancing, living off investments etc, is everyone just going to leave when their visa runs out, or start doing tourist visa runs, start a company?
You do not have to start a company. There 3 levels of business entity under the new tax regime. Small, medium and large. if your turnover is under $5000 a month you come under small and can set up much cheaper as a sole trader locally without all the expense and paperwork of becoming a limited company. Equivalent of being a sole trader. If you are over 55 and have independent investments you can get a retirement visa, but it does not allow you to work. I was told if you are under 55 and retired on medical grounds you can still get a retirement visa in Thailand, not sure about here. So many could be legal but don't know how to or don't want to because they do not want to pay tax here or cannot be arsed with the monthly tax routine. The ones who are a bit stuck are the ones who come here every year just for the winter and do not work. Somewhere in this thread it says they can still get a six month looking for work visa without a work permit
I think registering yourself as a sole trader kinda of means you're starting a company/ business.
It seems straight forward enough with two or three caveats.
1. Acceptance of your company
2. Back tax and all that implies for some. Look at the Cambodian Daily. Lol
3. Back work permits and medicals plus fines.
Those are enough to put many off.
One presumes that if a person were to fake an employment, even with a bona fide Khmer company, they would be in a system to be targeted for legality.
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by pczz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm

Abc123 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:22 pm
pczz wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:13 am
finbar wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:47 am
You're not a digital nomad. You're a guy on holiday, visiting his girlfriend and catching up with some work. I presume you pay tax in your home country so there's no need to make this any harder than it needs to be.
Agreed. Tell your employer you're going to visit family in the remote mountains, and they're late risers.
Do those of us that do work remotely a favor. Keep your fucking mouth shut.

The last thing any remote worker needs is a pedantic tourist coming in and making it more difficult by raising the question of taxes and legalities.
Keeping your mouth shut was all very well and good when you could get the visa.
Now you need a work permit, and therefore a Cambodian employer, to be able to stay at all.
There must be hundreds/thousands working remotely, freelancing, living off investments etc, is everyone just going to leave when their visa runs out, or start doing tourist visa runs, start a company?
You do not have to start a company. There 3 levels of business entity under the new tax regime. Small, medium and large. if your turnover is under $5000 a month you come under small and can set up much cheaper as a sole trader locally without all the expense and paperwork of becoming a limited company. Equivalent of being a sole trader. If you are over 55 and have independent investments you can get a retirement visa, but it does not allow you to work. I was told if you are under 55 and retired on medical grounds you can still get a retirement visa in Thailand, not sure about here. So many could be legal but don't know how to or don't want to because they do not want to pay tax here or cannot be arsed with the monthly tax routine. The ones who are a bit stuck are the ones who come here every year just for the winter and do not work. Somewhere in this thread it says they can still get a six month looking for work visa without a work permit
I think registering yourself as a sole trader kinda of means you're starting a company/ business.
It seems straight forward enough with two or three caveats.
1. Acceptance of your company
2. Back tax and all that implies for some. Look at the Cambodian Daily. Lol
3. Back work permits and medicals plus fines.
Those are enough to put many off.
One presumes that if a person were to fake an employment, even with a bona fide Khmer company, they would be in a system to be targeted for legality.
Unless the changed the system it is very different from opening a company. Company registration require registering at the ministry of commerce, vat, tax , articles of incorporation etc. Cost was usually anything between $1600 and $2000 depending on how much help you need and where you got it. Registering as a sole trader or family business with a turnover of under $5000 a month require a trip to the one stop shop or Sanghkat and cost less than $200. Worlds apart, but it is all changing very quick so you need to check before you jump
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Re: Working remote in Cambodia, legally

Post by AndyKK » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:46 am

This is what I don't get! If someone (immigrant) was to work illegal in our own countries, we all seem to get pissed. But why is it OK for us to do this in other countries? I know of many whom are working legal. Just takes a little effort.
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