Australian AirAsia flight plunges 22,000 feet; panic aboard

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Australian AirAsia flight plunges 22,000 feet; panic aboard

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23/11/2017 09:12
SYDNEY, Nov. 23 (Xinhua) -- An AirAsia flight that was forced to return to Perth airport was plummeting at a rate of 11 meters per second, an interim report has found recently.

Flight QZ535 departed Perth in Western Australia (WA) bound for Bali in Indonesia on Oct. 15 but turned back 30 minutes after taking off as the cabin lost pressure and the plane fell from a cruising altitude of 32,000 feet to 10,000 feet.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) report found that flight crew noticed a pressurisation fault "appear then disappear" shortly after take-off.

After reaching cruising altitude, the problem persisted and the pilot instructed cabin crew they would conduct an immediate emergency descent to 10,000 feet.

"Shortly after, the cabin crew manager reported to the flight crew that the emergency oxygen masks in the cabin were not deployed and the flight crew then manually deployed them," the report said.

"The cabin crew reported that they secured the cabin and instructed the passengers in accordance with their emergency descent procedures."

The interim report made no comment on how the cabin crew's handling of the incident which was heavily criticized following the incident.
Passengers said the crew exacerbated the ordeal with a panicked response.

Perth woman Leah told Australian media following the incident that she thought she was going to die.

"I actually picked up my phone and sent a text message to my family, just hoping that they would get it," she said. "We were all pretty much saying goodbye to each other. It was really upsetting.
"The masks fell down and everybody started panicking. Nobody told us what was going on."

The ATSB found that a faulty cabin pressure controller was responsible. The final report will be released in May 2018.
http://en.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/6 ... eport.html
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On Air Asia, wouldn't you have to insert 10 ringgit to get the oxygen mask to fall down and 25 ringgit for the O2?
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QZ is Indonesia plane. You need rupiah.
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Stupid media overhype these events by using "plunges" and "plummeting" to describe what was in fact a controlled descent. They need to get a grip.

And perhaps also, the flight crew need to let their passengers know ASAP that the plane is not falling out of the sky but is actually descending safely. But, Indonesian AirAsia.
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timmydownawell wrote:Stupid media overhype these events by using "plunges" and "plummeting" to describe what was in fact a controlled descent. They need to get a grip.

And perhaps also, the flight crew need to let their passengers know ASAP that the plane is not falling out of the sky but is actually descending safely. But, Indonesian AirAsia.
If plummeting 11m/s towards ground wasn't bad enough, they were also hurtling forwards, forever joined together in their mutual conveyance towards their inevitable future at more than 200m/s!
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epidemiks wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:20 am
timmydownawell wrote:Stupid media overhype these events by using "plunges" and "plummeting" to describe what was in fact a controlled descent. They need to get a grip.

And perhaps also, the flight crew need to let their passengers know ASAP that the plane is not falling out of the sky but is actually descending safely. But, Indonesian AirAsia.
If plummeting 11m/s towards ground wasn't bad enough, they were also hurtling forwards, forever joined together in their mutual conveyance towards their inevitable future at more than 200m/s!
Now that sucks. No wonder people take valium before flying. They should dish them out as you board. Stay caaaaaaaaaalm everyone. :o
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hope airasia(indonesia) ups its maintenance schedule to a proper level, its a part of asia i intend to check out in the next few years, do not need more grey hairs with the planes upkeep neglected
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SEAfann wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:35 pm hope airasia(indonesia) ups its maintenance schedule to a proper level, its a part of asia i intend to check out in the next few years, do not need more grey hairs with the planes upkeep neglected

Absolutely nothing in Indonesia is maintained to proper levels or standards.
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Cruisemonkey wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:08 pm
SEAfann wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:35 pm hope airasia(indonesia) ups its maintenance schedule to a proper level, its a part of asia i intend to check out in the next few years, do not need more grey hairs with the planes upkeep neglected

Absolutely nothing in SEA is maintained to proper levels or standards.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:26 pm 23/11/2017 09:12
SYDNEY, Nov. 23 (Xinhua) -- An AirAsia flight that was forced to return to Perth airport was plummeting at a rate of 11 meters per second, an interim report has found recently.

Flight QZ535 departed Perth in Western Australia (WA) bound for Bali in Indonesia on Oct. 15 but turned back 30 minutes after taking off as the cabin lost pressure and the plane fell from a cruising altitude of 32,000 feet to 10,000 feet.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) report found that flight crew noticed a pressurisation fault "appear then disappear" shortly after take-off.

After reaching cruising altitude, the problem persisted and the pilot instructed cabin crew they would conduct an immediate emergency descent to 10,000 feet.

"Shortly after, the cabin crew manager reported to the flight crew that the emergency oxygen masks in the cabin were not deployed and the flight crew then manually deployed them," the report said.

"The cabin crew reported that they secured the cabin and instructed the passengers in accordance with their emergency descent procedures."

The interim report made no comment on how the cabin crew's handling of the incident which was heavily criticized following the incident.
Passengers said the crew exacerbated the ordeal with a panicked response.

Perth woman Leah told Australian media following the incident that she thought she was going to die.

"I actually picked up my phone and sent a text message to my family, just hoping that they would get it," she said. "We were all pretty much saying goodbye to each other. It was really upsetting.
"The masks fell down and everybody started panicking. Nobody told us what was going on."

The ATSB found that a faulty cabin pressure controller was responsible. The final report will be released in May 2018.
http://en.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/6 ... eport.html
If a modern airliner loses cabin pressure it doesn't 'plummet' from the sky, it just descends to a height of about 3 km (10.000 feet) where the people in the aircraft can breath normally without oxygen masks. Since aircraft these days fly at an altitude of 10-13 km they have to descend 7-10 km's in 10 minutes, since that's usually the minimum amount of oxygen available. A 7000 meter descent in 600 seconds means the aircraft has to descent at about 11.5 meter per second, about the descent rate of the 'falling' airliner mentioned.
So nothing special about this case, pilots just did whatever they had to do according to book. Might have felt a bit inconvenient, but loads better than the people on board the Helios Airlines plane, where the pilots neglected a warning of insufficient pressurization and everybody on board went unconscious and the plane crashed due to fuel starvation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522
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