Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by frank lee bent » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:19 pm

it has been on the morning tv news all week
everyone is ignoring it
it is just words until they have a registry and huge enforcement bureaucracy
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by Jamie_Lambo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm

i hope this doesnt get enforced
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by frank lee bent » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:46 pm

i don't think they can when a single dose prevents a tummy ache from becoming typhoid
they are going to get rid of ( some of ) the unlicensed pharmacists, though for sure
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by username » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm
i hope this doesnt get enforced
Yes, please let's hope one of the biggest threats to modern medicine, namely antibiotic resistance, can continue to worsen :facepalm:
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

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username wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm
i hope this doesnt get enforced
Yes, please let's hope one of the biggest threats to modern medicine, namely antibiotic resistance, can continue to worsen :facepalm:
You're completely ignoring the fact that 95% of Khmers wouldn't be able to afford the doctor.

So they die from diarrhoaea or typhoid, both easily treatable with ofloxacine, cost around $5, because they don't have $10 for the doctor, but that's OK with you?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is yet another scam cooked up by big pharma.

The biggest threat to modern medicine is the cocksuckers who profiteer from it.
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by taabarang » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:43 pm

that genius wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:22 pm
username wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm
i hope this doesnt get enforced
Yes, please let's hope one of the biggest threats to modern medicine, namely antibiotic resistance, can continue to worsen :facepalm:
You're completely ignoring the fact that 95% of Khmers wouldn't be able to afford the doctor.

So they die from diarrhoaea or typhoid, both easily treatable with ofloxacine, cost around $5, because they don't have $10 for the doctor, but that's OK with you?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is yet another scam cooked up by big pharma.

The biggest threat to modern medicine is the cocksuckers who profiteer from it.
The problem at least here in rural Cambodia is that if they don't have the money to see a "real" doctor of which there are damn few, they see the local Kru Khmer or witch doctor. They are not only poor, but trapped in a sliding scale of incompetence.
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by that genius » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:51 pm

Yeah, seeing a real doctor is around $50 for a private one, not sure how long a Khmer would wait at Russian Friendship hospital to see a state/subsidised doctor, plus they'd have to pay to get there...stupid idea.
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by Barang chgout » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:54 pm

I thought this place was the dumping ground for all sorts of shit. If there's a dollar to be made with meds, I don't see antibiotics disappearing soon...

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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by username » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:11 pm

that genius wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:22 pm
username wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm
i hope this doesnt get enforced
Yes, please let's hope one of the biggest threats to modern medicine, namely antibiotic resistance, can continue to worsen :facepalm:
You're completely ignoring the fact that 95% of Khmers wouldn't be able to afford the doctor.

So they die from diarrhoaea or typhoid, both easily treatable with ofloxacine, cost around $5, because they don't have $10 for the doctor, but that's OK with you?
Or in 10-15 years, they die because whatever antibiotic which would easily cure their illness is useless because of resistance, but that's OK by you?

I'm not arguing against antibiotics. I'm arguing against the dangerous and irresponsible usage of it, that is threatening not only cambodians, but the whole world.

Banning antibiotics without subscription might be the wrong end to start things, but it can't continue like this either. Let's hope the new health insurance/tax thing will kick things in right direction, although I doubt it will.
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Re: Ministry bans selling antibiotics without prescription

Post by Anchor Moy » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:13 pm

that genius wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:22 pm
username wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:41 pm
i hope this doesnt get enforced
Yes, please let's hope one of the biggest threats to modern medicine, namely antibiotic resistance, can continue to worsen :facepalm:
You're completely ignoring the fact that 95% of Khmers wouldn't be able to afford the doctor.

So they die from diarrhoaea or typhoid, both easily treatable with ofloxacine, cost around $5, because they don't have $10 for the doctor, but that's OK with you?

Wouldn't surprise me if this is yet another scam cooked up by big pharma.

The biggest threat to modern medicine is the cocksuckers who profiteer from it.
Ok, I don't agree with you. I believe that it is dangerous for people to take antibiotics when they don't need them, because scientific evidence supports the theory that overuse is a principal cause of antibiotic resistance.
How can it be a "scam cooked up by big pharma" to encourage less and more specific use of antibiotics, instead of taking them for every illness on the off-chance that they might work, as is the case in Cambodia at present ? Overuse of antibiotics is a real problem.
If you don't believe me, ask Alexander Fleming...
CAUSES OF THE ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE CRISIS
Overuse

As early as 1945, Sir Alexander Fleming raised the alarm regarding antibiotic overuse when he warned that the “public will demand [the drug and] … then will begin an era … of abuses.” 7,14 The overuse of antibiotics clearly drives the evolution of resistance.5,9 Epidemiological studies have demonstrated a direct relationship between antibiotic consumption and the emergence and dissemination of resistant bacteria strains.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4378521/

However, it's also possible that the use of antibiotics in the meat we eat could be an even bigger threat to antibiotic resistance than prescription drugs, because they are so widely used.
This is interesting (and scary): https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/a ... 016-0147-y

As for the recent announcement banning the sale of antibiotics without prescription, I don't believe it will take effect in the near future. Among other reasons, the health system is not organized enough yet to cope with keeping a track on what is sold and to who, and first they need to properly license the pharmacies.
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