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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby OrangeDragon » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:40 pm

The Add Jay wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:Related question... Is criminal activity in America severe enough that it needs a police state to manage or resolve it?
Approximately 1.4 million people were part of gangs as of 2011, and more than 33,000 gangs were active in the United States.
One of the reason I'm for legalization of drugs is to take away a major funding source for those organizations.
term for "gang" according the govt is broad...just like the word terrorist.

One of the reason I'm for legalization of drugs is to take away a major funding source for those organizations.

Riggggggggggghhhhhhhttttttttttt...........you sure it isnt money and to make the population more malleable?
My motivation? No... it's to take away a funding source, as well as not tell grown adults what they can and can't do to their own bodies.

As for "gang" being a broad term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ga ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby Satiated Parrot » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:21 pm

Violent crime rates do appear to be way higher in the US than any other western country, although I may be wrong on that.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby OrangeDragon » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:30 pm

As a per capita, we're lower than many countries. As a total, we're higher than most. We just happen to have a massive population, and most violent crime is heaviest in urban areas (like Ferguson) while much of the population lives in sprawling suburban areas.

It's also down significantly in recent years, in part because of militarized police.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby OrangeDragon » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:33 pm

As per-capita though... Briton seems to be going to shit. It is the daily... so I take it with a grain of salt... but number are numbers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-U-S.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Maybe they need their cops to shoot a few hooligans and scare the shit out of the rest of them.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby Digg3r » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:40 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:As per-capita though... Briton seems to be going to shit. It is the daily... so I take it with a grain of salt... but number are numbers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-U-S.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Maybe they need their cops to shoot a few hooligans and scare the shit out of the rest of them.
It's all based around reported crime. In the US victims don't report their crimes to the police in fear of the police then shooting them.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby The Add Jay » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:46 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:
The Add Jay wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:Related question... Is criminal activity in America severe enough that it needs a police state to manage or resolve it?
Approximately 1.4 million people were part of gangs as of 2011, and more than 33,000 gangs were active in the United States.
One of the reason I'm for legalization of drugs is to take away a major funding source for those organizations.
term for "gang" according the govt is broad...just like the word terrorist.

One of the reason I'm for legalization of drugs is to take away a major funding source for those organizations.

Riggggggggggghhhhhhhttttttttttt...........you sure it isnt money and to make the population more malleable?
My motivation? No... it's to take away a funding source, as well as not tell grown adults what they can and can't do to their own bodies.

As for "gang" being a broad term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ga ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
WRONG: Gang is guilty by association. So 10 teenagers hanging on the corner is therefor a gang.

But they HAVE to tell me what I do with my money or else I lose everything. You understand how its going O.D? you can sleep and do what you want..."Thinking" you are free but...opening a business...you have no Freedom. They tricked Yo Ass Buddy. :assasin:
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby OrangeDragon » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:51 pm

What do you mean? I have opened businesses in the US before... it's a relatively easy and surprisingly painless process.

Especially compared to here... lol. Registering a US business takes about an hour and costs around $50.

And see that list... those aren't "10 teenagers hanging out on a street corner". If anything they tend to underreport gang crime because they have to first prove the crime was actually linked to the gangs activities rather than the independent actions of an individual.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby The Add Jay » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:59 pm

let me restate that...try to maintaine a business in the U.S or at least in my state.

Half those gangs on wiki dont exist anymore...gambino crime family?

your totally missing the point man. ms13 is massive so are the bloods and crips but when it comes down to nitty gritty...guilty by association with a group of friends is considered a gang.
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby frank lee bent » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:01 pm

unlike the Clinton years "is" means whatever they want it to under patriot act2
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Re: Is America a Police state

Postby The Add Jay » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:02 pm

The gangs we have to worry about is the Democratic gang and the Republican gang which is actually the same gang.

Lois Lerner...I plead the 5th and I tossed my computer out a window. But if I post something on twitter..wow big trouble. Imagine if you or I would try to do that?

But....using the IRS as an arm for the Regime thats okay.
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