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25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:57 pm

TL/DR: Lucky Lucky (and presumably other agents) have lost the authority to process work permit applications and driver's licenses.

Following from my recent post about attempting to get a driver's license renewal and work permit via Lucky Lucky I got a call yesterday afternoon from them to come in and collect a full refund on my driver's license application and pick up my expired license. This was unexpected.

When I rocked in this afternoon the office was oddly quiet and the tables were bare - as I arrived the staff were already reaching for my file, and auntie was already heading for the cashbox (although she tried to stiff me $10 until I strongly argued the point). I asked whether the work permit application was still possible and was told no, not anymore. I asked whether that was just for me, or everyone (as the discussion on the $10 was fairly direct) and was told they are no longer allowed to process work permit applications at all due to government changes, and that all foreigners had to apply at the Ministry now.

They confirmed Lucky Lucky is still able to process visa extensions.

I can only speculate on whether LL was aware of this upcoming change before Pchum Ben when they pushed me for a 50% no-receipt back payment on WP for previous years.

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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:09 pm

Agencies have not been able to process DL's for at least the past couple months. WP applications must be submitted via the online portal since it went into effect last year, if you have trouble with the portal you can go in person to the MoLVT. Agencies haven't been able to process WPs for quite some time despite claiming they can, the ones that are still doing it are completing the process via the portal, but you still have to provide all the necessary documentation, all your paying for is them to submit the application online on your behalf.
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:11 pm

. A step-by step guide for expats applying for or renewing a Cambodian driving license in person.

Due to the change in laws issued by the General Department Of Public Works and Transport, CNM Motors will no longer be offering the Cambodian driving license service.
Below is a detailed description of how to apply for a new license or a simple renewal for all CNM Motors clients and followers.

New applicants should take around one hour from start-to-finish, and cost $11.50.
Renewals should take roughly 40 minutes, and cost $10.25 only.

ALL new or old applicants must attend in person with required documents, and complete a simple medical examination.

General Department Of Public Works and Transport office is located here: https://goo.gl/maps/yAA7n5gRFqw
Its is CLOSED on weekends, and CLOSED 11:30am till 2:00pm for lunch break.

Documents required: original passport + one copy, current valid visa + one copy, your original valid driving license from your home-country, 5 passport photos with white background, residence certificate specifically for driving licenses (which is provided from local Sangkat office – applicants should approach landlord for assistance with this).
For renewals you should also submit your old expired license.

Unfortunately this department are no longer issuing Chinese expatriates Cambodian licenses without completing a driving test.
If your license from your home-country does not contain English language at all, you must receive a translation from your embassy to submit along with your application.

All licenses for expats are valid for one year only.

1. Once you arrive, enter using the last entrance (2nd on your right). To the left of the testing station is a group of buildings. Enter through the red door. This is the waiting area for people completing driving tests.

2. Follow the arrow on the right side. Enter the room on the left side (if you come in through the main entrance on the other side, its opposite). This is the medical checkup room. Office staff will ask your height and weight, and give you a simple eye test. They will complete some forms for you. You need to give them 1 passport photo and 10,000 riel only.

3. Leave the way you entered. Walk straight ahead, past the Wing shop, and look for the Driving License Office on the left hand side. Go to the last window on the right, and give your form from the medical test, your old license (if renewing), 2 remaining passport photos, and your passport along with the copies.

4. They will request that you go inside, where your paperwork is checked and approved by 4 different people, and then given to a data entry member of staff, who will prepare your application whilst you sit outside and wait.

5. You will be called to get your paperwork, sign your name on the docs, then take it to the Wing kiosk outside and transfer the remaining 30,000 riel. Wing fee is 1,000 riel.

6. Return the form to the members of staff inside the glass room office. They will recheck it, then you wait while they print your new license. You need to sign a book confirming you have collected it. The new licenses are paper cards in a plastic sheath. These cards have U.V watermarks, and are extremely waterproof.

Good luck
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:16 pm

PSD-Kiwi wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:09 pm
Agencies have not been able to process DL's for the past couple months, and all WP applications must be submitted via the online portal since it went into effect last year, most agencies haven't been able to process WPs for quite some time.
Yes exactly, my DL renewal was caught up by LL for the past couple of months.

LL were telling me outright that they were processing WPs prior to Pchum Ben, and very keen to take my cash. Surely, they weren't being dishonest? ;)

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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Fixers are the same the world over, dodgy as fk, at least you got your money back.
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:36 pm

PSD-Kiwi wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:20 pm
Fixers are the same the world over, dodgy as fk, at least you got your money back.
Absolutely.
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:55 pm

question;
...your original valid driving license from your home-country
could i get a Cambodian license using my 5 year thai license, (All in english) ?

a 1 year license is only 40,000 riel now?? Weren't they like $35 before? :thumb: :thumb:
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by epidemiks » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:26 pm


phuketrichard wrote:question;
...your original valid driving license from your home-country
could i get a Cambodian license using my 5 year thai license, (All in english) ?

a 1 year license is only 40,000 riel now?? Weren't they like $35 before? :thumb: :thumb:
Not sure. I'd suspect you'd need to hand over some crisp notes to the lady at window 3 with the Transparency International anti graft poster to the left of her.

Yes, 1 year licence is now 30,000r, plus a small commission at the on-site Wing booth where you pay. 1000 or 1500r iirc.
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by Jamie_Lambo » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:42 pm

PSD-Kiwi wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:11 pm
residence certificate specifically for driving licenses (which is provided from local Sangkat office – applicants should approach landlord for assistance with this).
you got anymore info on this document mate? is it a specific document for drivers licenses?
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Re: 25 Sep 17 - Latest on Work Permits

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:08 am

Fairly certain I've posted this information several times already, including a sample copy of what it should look like, but since you asked politely Jamie here ya go...


Residence Certification Letter*

To obtain this document, foreigners should go to the local commune (sangkat) office where the applicant resides/ resided in Cambodia to request the letter. There is a no-standard administrative fee for the provision of this letter.

Applicants should bring the following documents:
• If he/she is Cambodian: ID card, family book/ residence book, and house rental agreement (if he/ she did not own a house).
• If he/she is a foreigner: Passport, house rental agreement, job letter and other related documents to support the claim of residence.

Note:

The information in the residence certificate letter includes:
1. name of resident
2. house address
3. how long/length of stay that the resident stayed/ has stayed at that address.

The applicant may authorize someone living in Cambodia to apply for this letter for them. The applicant will need to provide an authorization letter for that person. However acceptance of this letter will be dependent on the commune (sangkat) office. There is no national standard for this type of work.
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