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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by juansweetpotato » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:30 pm

kyleincambo wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:15 pm
frank lee bent wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:57 am
did you regrease the heat sink for the cpu?
a ups should flatten out the power surges
you can download a cpu thermometer that will display temp on your desktop
I just put this computer togethor 3 months ago and used the high quality thermal paste. I checked it and its still all good. Like I said in an earlier post unless the CPU is spiking randomly with heat it has stayed relatively cool. I have CAM monitoring the temperature and it stays solidly at 39. Would a UPS really help you think? I have thought about it. I am also thinking about just getting a more powerful PSU but I just dont know since my PSU should be fine for my parts. STUMPED
Did you leave any headroom when calculating the power drain of the board and other components? You should really leave around 40% extra on top of your component's requirements. I don't think a UPS would help in your situation, but Stroppy is right, it's always nice to run the comp via a UPS. Especially because of the fairly frequent power outages, even if they only last a few seconds.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:37 pm

I have a new UPS sitting on the floor where I can keep an eye on it, testing it before putting behind a PC. As I'm typing the power is browning out slightly, every few seconds in short bursts, and the UPS is switching consistently (so, a good unit) - interestingly, the brown-outs are dropping the a/c and dimming the lights slightly, but the TV and modems are not affected. I know from experience though that constant cycling dramatically shortens the life of a product.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by Username Taken » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:39 pm

kyleincambo wrote:
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the lights dimming and fans changing speed
The power is up and down like a yo-yo. Get a UPS if your data and hardware are of any value to you.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by kyleincambo » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:51 pm

Thanks again all, I am on my way to pay my EDC bill and hopefully find some quality UPS, and maybe buy another PSU. I plan on building more computers so why not even if it doesnt solve my problem. I am impressed though by the quality and sincerity of the help I recieve here. Thanks again.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by juansweetpotato » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:16 pm

kyleincambo wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:51 pm
Thanks again all, I am on my way to pay my EDC bill and hopefully find some quality UPS, and maybe buy another PSU. I plan on building more computers so why not even if it doesnt solve my problem. I am impressed though by the quality and sincerity of the help I recieve here. Thanks again.
Just about all electrical equipment out here is very tolerant of the fluctuating voltage. I reakon if you plugged a 220v/50hz AC unit from a Western country in here, it would adamantly refuse to even turn on.

I remember one job I did out here had a total of 2000w of consumption when you added all the fridges, freezers etc etc together, but it all seemed to work fine on a 1000w supply. :?

However, big amplifiers are never going to work well in Cambodia. Someone I know had a bar that was over 200mtrs from the main supply post in the street. He was getting 160v most of the time. Everything worked okay except for his rented amp at parties.

BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm

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BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
The big inline ones or the small boxes?
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by juansweetpotato » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
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BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
The big inline ones or the small boxes?
Both, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more when fully loaded to double with a minmal loading. :shock:
1200r average renters rate becomes 2400r.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pm

juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm
StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:16 pm
BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
The big inline ones or the small boxes?
Both, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more to double :shock:
1200r average renters rate becomes 2400r.
Well that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by juansweetpotato » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm
StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:16 pm
BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
The big inline ones or the small boxes?
Both, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more to double :shock:
1200r average renters rate becomes 2400r.
Well that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...
Everything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.

A hundred comps with six top of the range graphics cards will cost you over $17,000 per month at EDC rates. :o
EDIT that should have read $11,808 per 30 days min without all the UPSs.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help

Post by StroppyChops » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pm

juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pm
StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm
StroppyChops wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm
juansweetpotato wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:16 pm
BTW, those voltage regulators cost a fortune in electric unless you run them at full load.
The big inline ones or the small boxes?
Both, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more to double :shock:
1200r average renters rate becomes 2400r.
Well that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...
Everything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.
Can't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.
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