Bringing external hard drives to Cambodia?

vladimir · Post by **vladimir** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:35 pm

The OP's buddy smokes too much weed

People who are worried about encryption have something to hide, and not in a good way

No one is going to stop you for movies, even normal porn, or music

Kiddy-porn? I hope they nail their arses to the wall.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:41 pm

they prosecute ppl regularly over movies and pirated software in USA under the digital millenium copyright act
you can get some serious felony prison time if they want
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-thi ... r-updated/

Digg3r · Post by **Digg3r** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:49 pm

vladimir wrote: People who are worried about encryption have something to hide, .

It you are happy for anybody to rummage through your personal data than that is your choice. The average person does not want that to happen.

You do realise that your connection to Facebook, online banking, Gmail etc is encrypted?

Would you be happy for those connections to be sent in clear text.

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hanno · Post by **hanno** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:45 am

Digg3r wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:49 pm
It you are happy for anybody to rummage through your personal data than that is your choice. The average person does not want that to happen.

Some customs guy wants to go through 2TB of holiday snaps, he is more than welcome.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:08 am

the thing is, sometimes they will just copy all of it, or sometimes they will keep your device for 2 weeks.

thePeck · Post by **thePeck** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:59 am

I travel always with a sealed encrypted drive. A 8TB model. Has a physical key plus a password.

Easiest way to bypass questions and not opening it is encrypt it with a long random password. Don't memorize it. Can be any length. Copy it somehow and send to a 3rd party, destroy all copied you hold.

If/When asked to open it you can honestly answer you don't know the password.

Then of course when you arrive to where you're going have the 3rd party send you the password.

I don't travel with extremely private/confidential info but it's important enough I don't want any government Tom, Dick or Harry to to have access to the information. Both work and personal info.

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phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:47 am

thePeck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:59 am I travel always with a sealed encrypted drive. A 8TB model. Has a physical key plus a password.

Easiest way to bypass questions and not opening it is encrypt it with a long random password. Don't memorize it. Can be any length. Copy it somehow and send to a 3rd party, destroy all copied you hold.

If/When asked to open it you can honestly answer you don't know the password.

Then of course when you arrive to where you're going have the 3rd party send you the password.

I don't travel with extremely private/confidential info but it's important enough I don't want any government Tom, Dick or Harry to to have access to the information. Both work and personal info.

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IF u do NOT provide a passcode to open the computer or hard drive, US customs has every right to confiscate it. You lose

IF ur even thinking of travelling somewhere with data u dont want anyone to see, put it in the clouds

thePeck · Post by **thePeck** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:00 am

phuketrichard wrote:

IF u do NOT provide a passcode to open the computer or hard drive, US customs has every right to confiscate it. You lose

IF ur even thinking of travelling somewhere with data u dont want anyone to see, put it in the clouds

Honestly I'm not concerned about DHS agents. I'm specifically talking about foreign(None US) government agents. Then again I'd probably not care either way and if they confiscate it I'll just get another one. My info is backed up in several locations. And you're right, my personal data is backed up in a cloud location. Just a large amount and will take a few days to re-download it all.

Only once, exiting Turkmenistan was I asked about the contents of my laptop. Once I told them they'd have to contact the RSO of the US Embassy to tell me to allow them access to my laptop, they just told me to leave. Even if I'm in a place not doing work for the DoS that will always be my excuse. Except N. Korea lol I doubt they'd care and just smash all my electronics.

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hanno · Post by **hanno** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:53 am

Or send you to 15 years of hard labor.

eriksank · Post by **eriksank** » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:08 pm

thePeck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:59 amI travel always with a sealed encrypted drive. A 8TB model. Has a physical key plus a password. Easiest way to bypass questions and not opening it is encrypt it with a long random password. Don't memorize it. Can be any length. Copy it somehow and send to a 3rd party, destroy all copied you hold. If/When asked to open it you can honestly answer you don't know the password.

In the US, recent case law has been canceling your ability to invoke the fifth amendment:

On Monday, a US federal appeals court sided against a former Philadelphia police officer who has been in jail 17 months because he invoked his Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination. He had refused to comply with a court order commanding him to unlock two hard drives the authorities say contain child porn. The 3-0 decision (PDF) by the 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals means that the suspect, Francis Rawls, likely will remain jailed indefinitely or until the order (PDF) finding him in contempt of court is lifted or overturned.

There are also numerous cases in the UK.

Therefore, you need plausible deniability as to the existence of such password. That is why the system should never prompt you for one. If you use the linux dd command, the system will simply say that the drive is empty or corrupt. No password prompts.

On your laptop, it is a bit harder to achieve plausible deniability than on external drives. You can encrypt the home folders, but you should always have more than one login:

[ Peter ]
[ John ] <--- I know this password only
[ Carl ] <--- your real login
[ Jonathan ]

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