Video of Foreigner In SUV Running Over Khmer on Motorbike in Phnom Penh Sparks Debate: Whose Fault Is It? (POLL)

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Whose fault was this accident?

THE BARANG
10
30%
THE KHMER
14
42%
BOTH
6
18%
NEITHER; SHIT HAPPENS
3
9%
 
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Re: Video of Foreigner In SUV Running Over Khmer on Motorbike in Phnom Penh Sparks Debate: Whose Fault Is It? (POLL)

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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:19 pm I tend to think that in dense traffic, the car is in its right to tighten the gap between itself and the car in front. However, going at speed (which only means 20kph+ here) then the car shouldn't have kept such a small gap between itself and the other car/Moto driver, even if had apparently just moved out of the lane. Basic defensive driving skills applied to local rules.
Ok so there is a reason there is such a small gap because its rush hour traffic and there is one car behind and one in front, now the gap was small when the moto decided to vear across my path, so the gap didn't close or open it stayed about the same, my foot was hovering over brake and gas car was actually moving on idle, now when the moto veared back over to the right I applied gas to proceed forward as you do, i didn't gas it i applied gas, so at the last moment the moto decided to swerve back into my path and it seem liked he almost slowed down, to be honest i half think it was deliberate, at that stage in the time it took me to brake again hard he turned right into my path and got hit, now that is pure bad driving on his part, i accept my fault i couldn't brake quickly enough but driving in Phnom Penh rush hour traffic there is no gaps in traffic as you will know if you drive a car over here, i just hope these guys who hover in front of my front bumper inches away and its a regular occurrence don't make dangerous moves like that guy did as car drivers have absolutely know time to brake when they edge into a tiny gap between moving cars
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ExpatSUVDriver wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:38 pm
Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:19 pm I tend to think that in dense traffic, the car is in its right to tighten the gap between itself and the car in front. However, going at speed (which only means 20kph+ here) then the car shouldn't have kept such a small gap between itself and the other car/Moto driver, even if had apparently just moved out of the lane. Basic defensive driving skills applied to local rules.
Ok so there is a reason there is such a small gap because its rush hour traffic and there is one car behind and one in front, now the gap was small when the moto decided to vear across my path, so the gap didn't close or open it stayed about the same, my foot was hovering over brake and gas car was actually moving on idle, now when the moto veared back over to the right I applied gas to proceed forward as you do, i didn't gas it i applied gas, so at the last moment the moto decided to swerve back into my path and it seem liked he almost slowed down, to be honest i half think it was deliberate, at that stage in the time it took me to brake again hard he turned right into my path and got hit, now that is pure bad driving on his part, i accept my fault i couldn't brake quickly enough but driving in Phnom Penh rush hour traffic there is no gaps in traffic as you will know if you drive a car over here, i just hope these guys who hover in front of my front bumper inches away and its a regular occurrence don't make dangerous moves like that guy did as car drivers have absolutely know time to brake when they edge into a tiny gap between moving cars
tbh i think i was a little harsh in my last couple of comments, i just re looked at the video, and your speed is pretty consistent,
i think with being a british car driver, and our steering being on the right hand side of the car, the view of the moto would have been more visable,
but with it being a left handed drive car, the moto isnt in the most visable spot, so i do sympathise a bit actually
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^^ I don't suppose you or he did a breathalyzer test. He looked like a drunk driver to me.

There are plenty of moto and tuk tuk drivers that have a drink during their afternoon card games.
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Username Taken wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:53 pm ^^ I don't suppose you or he did a breathalyzer test. He looked like a drunk driver to me.

There are plenty of moto and tuk tuk drivers that have a drink during their afternoon card games.
Amazingly he didn't have to go to the police station his uncle came and some stranger off the side off the road who didnt even see it and is now negotiating for the kid, a not so very nice khmer woman with a big chip on her shoulder.
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What's the status of the negotiations? How much are they asking for and how much are you offering? Do you have your car or are the police holding it?
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ExpatSUVDriver wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:38 pm
Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:19 pm I tend to think that in dense traffic, the car is in its right to tighten the gap between itself and the car in front. However, going at speed (which only means 20kph+ here) then the car shouldn't have kept such a small gap between itself and the other car/Moto driver, even if had apparently just moved out of the lane. Basic defensive driving skills applied to local rules.
Ok so there is a reason there is such a small gap because its rush hour traffic and there is one car behind and one in front, now the gap was small when the moto decided to vear across my path, so the gap didn't close or open it stayed about the same, my foot was hovering over brake and gas car was actually moving on idle, now when the moto veared back over to the right I applied gas to proceed forward as you do, i didn't gas it i applied gas, so at the last moment the moto decided to swerve back into my path and it seem liked he almost slowed down, to be honest i half think it was deliberate, at that stage in the time it took me to brake again hard he turned right into my path and got hit, now that is pure bad driving on his part, i accept my fault i couldn't brake quickly enough but driving in Phnom Penh rush hour traffic there is no gaps in traffic as you will know if you drive a car over here, i just hope these guys who hover in front of my front bumper inches away and its a regular occurrence don't make dangerous moves like that guy did as car drivers have absolutely know time to brake when they edge into a tiny gap between moving cars
Yes, the guy was a chicken-head for sure. But, you lost it, admit it. :stir:

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Im still sticking to my guns, he caused that not me due to shitty driving, ill be putting a train horn om my car from now on, see how they react to a bit of a toot toot while hovering on my bumper
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ExpatSUVDriver wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:54 am Im still sticking to my guns, he caused that not me due to shitty driving, ill be putting a train horn om my car from now on, see how they react to a bit of a toot toot while hovering on my bumper
He, for sure caused it, but you are for sure at fault, the person in back is always in the wrong, regardless of circumstances. :beer3:
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ExpatSUVDriver wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:54 am Im still sticking to my guns, he caused that not me due to shitty driving, ill be putting a train horn om my car from now on, see how they react to a bit of a toot toot while hovering on my bumper
I have a truck horn on the tuk-tuk - it works really sweetly for clearing a path through the muppets that ignore the new traffic signals in the city.
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ExpatSUVDriver wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:03 pm a not so very nice khmer woman with a big chip on her shoulder.
Sounds like my downstairs neighbour.
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