juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 9:09 pm

AE86 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 9:59 pm Truth be told, most Khmer I know that are "middle class" have their own business and don't do any kind of reporting to a bank or tax collector, so I don't see how there are any accurate stats kept on Khmer's "average" earnings.

Agreed,, so what are your estimates?

AE86 wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 9:45 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 9:09 pm

AE86 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 9:59 pm Truth be told, most Khmer I know that are "middle class" have their own business and don't do any kind of reporting to a bank or tax collector, so I don't see how there are any accurate stats kept on Khmer's "average" earnings.

Agreed,, so what are your estimates?

No idea, I think it's impossible to average things out, but here's some numbers I've collected from people I've talked to.

The man we buy soup rice from in the mourning told us a good day is $30, slow day $10-15

The 5 tuk tuk drivers that park on our street say $20-30 a day is "average". When I put them to the test, I asked if I could borrow their tuk tuk for the day so I could play with it (bike and all) and $20 was a good enough offer, so I take that as accurate.

The man who maintains our fleet of delivery vehicles makes at least a grand a month, because we rent one of our places to him for $450 a month and he sents $2-300 to his mother in Vietnam each month.

One seller I frequent at Russian market tells us things are slow now, but $10-15 a day is still virtually rock bottom. She owns her stall.


Those are some numbers from people I'd consider middle class.

The World Bank in Cambodia has defined middle class as those with daily consumption expenditure of between $2.60 and $5.10, in line with the country’s current gross national income (GNI) per capita of $950.

Additional characteristics that define a middle-class person are the ownership of a television and motorbike, according to the bank.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 10:18 pm It all depends how you define middle class, this is from 2014 and sets the bar fairly low, although this is just about daily expenses rather than salaries.:

The World Bank in Cambodia has defined middle class as those with daily consumption expenditure of between $2.60 and $5.10, in line with the country’s current gross national income (GNI) per capita of $950.

Additional characteristics that define a middle-class person are the ownership of a television and motorbike, according to the bank.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/post-weeke ... ddle-class

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 10:04 pm Yep, sounds about right. I think the rice soup seller is underestimating by at least $150, as I have been told the minium any shop normally makes, including those crappy little ones, in PP is $500 pm.

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 10:37 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2017 10:18 pm It all depends how you define middle class, this is from 2014 and sets the bar fairly low, although this is just about daily expenses rather than salaries.:

The World Bank in Cambodia has defined middle class as those with daily consumption expenditure of between $2.60 and $5.10, in line with the country’s current gross national income (GNI) per capita of $950.

Additional characteristics that define a middle-class person are the ownership of a television and motorbike, according to the bank.

Wow, that is a low bar. Is that a fair indication, or is the World Bank just that far out of touch?

Here's a link to a recent study done on Cambodian households.
http://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street/ ... 00&lang=en

Eg

Pen family, Cambodia
$ 437/month
The Pen family lives in the Tboung Khmum Province, Cambodia. Thoeurm is 57 years old and works as a rice farmer. She lives with her daughter and a granddaughter in a 1-bedroom house. They own the house and have been living here for 9 years. The next thing they plan on buying is materials to build a fence. Their dream is to own a bigger house someday.


http://www.phnompenhpost.com/post-weeke ... ddle-class

https://earth.google.com/web/@11.922724 ... htdW0YAiAB

They don't look very middle class.