Where to go for pleasant road trip in Sihanoukville
Re: Where to go for pleasant road trip in Sihanoukville
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to page #53 the state cannot grant temporary occupation of state public property (Ream Park) for economic concessions. Is this correct or in error? If so, what the Chinese are doing in Ream park is illegal?
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Re: Where to go for pleasant road trip in Sihanoukville
Sailorman wrote: We paid the $1.00 entrance fee at the edge of the park and drove in on the wide dirt road. We proceeded to try and find the Silver Island Resort mentioned before here. We finally found the small dirt road leading down to the "Resort." The resort was a closed down shack, a sign and a dock/walkway leading out to an island. About the time we parked a guy showed up on a motorbike and demanded $4.00 each to use the public beach. We told him that we had already paid the park entrance fee and the beach is the property of the Cambodian people and open to the public.. At this time he got very nasty and threatening. He said "You no pay, I call the police." I asked him if he needed to use my phone? Well, that didn't settle well so he got more nasty and acted like he was phoning someone. Since he may have had more hoodlum backup we decided to leave, with him still wanting $4.00 a person. What a scam this place is and we didn't get a chance to look at the public beach and public island. It should be noted that the Chinese company with the "concession" has blocked off the roads to all the public beachs (almost, more later.)
If you talk about this island, it has many names, like sampoch- or thinker-island but not silver island and it has probably nothing to do with that resort.
We paid the$4 at the gate leading of the mainroad, as we knew upfront those were for rebuilding the walkway to and arround the island, which was washed away by a storm last october.
Its nice that there is now a nearly proper road there.
The guy at the beachhut was very helpful. Not only he showed us some paths to other big empty beaches, later he also pulled our broken moto back to the town near ream.
Re: Where to go for pleasant road trip in Sihanoukville
Ducan thanks for information.
I have never finishing reading any Cambodian laws. I know it is bad and i think i am not the only one.
I have never finishing reading any Cambodian laws. I know it is bad and i think i am not the only one.
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If you know a lot, know enough to make them respect you, if you are stupid, be stupid enough so they can pity you.
Re: Where to go for pleasant road trip in Sihanoukville
Jo Bold: I'm glad you had a good time at the island, but that doesn't dismiss the fact that it is an illegal structure and that it violates Cambodia law. We paid $1.00 to enter the park which I found as reasonable, and then they want us to pay $4.00 each to use the dirt road to a public beach? (BTW/ The dirt road took out a bunch of trees and virgin jungle. Who did they sell the trees to? Look at my picture of one stump) I was born at night, but not last night. The beach and island are owned by the people of Cambodia, not some scamming company that want to milk tourists. Try the other beach I posted, its free and doesn't have some rude/nasty scammer trying to milk money from tourists.
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In simple terms, Gov public property cannot be sold/leased , but Gov private property can be, If you have friends/family/money , Gov public property is transferred to Gov private property and the answer is solved. Anyone wanting to buy 10,000 ha of the Mekong river,please contact me.Sailorman wrote:Please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to page #53 the state cannot grant temporary occupation of state public property (Ream Park) for economic concessions. Is this correct or in error? If so, what the Chinese are doing in Ream park is illegal?
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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Could you please explain, why this wooden (so non permanent) structure is illegal?Sailorman wrote:... but that doesn't dismiss the fact that it is an illegal structure and that it violates Cambodia law. ...
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Jo Bold wrote:Could you please explain, why this wooden (so non permanent) structure is illegal?Sailorman wrote:... but that doesn't dismiss the fact that it is an illegal structure and that it violates Cambodia law. ...
Yea, Sailorman,,,, At least read the Environmentat Impact Report , before you say it is illegal.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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No one has come forth to show that the proper permits were granted to build this structure. Like the beach shacks in Snookyville, it was just probably built with no approval. The Chinese do have a concession in the park, but even with the pay off of the body guard unit, the Cambodia laws still take precedence. I would believe that the same 50 meter rule that governs the Snookyville beach shacks would also govern the building of structures in a National Park that is suppose to be owned by the people of Cambodia and not corrupt companies/developers backed by the government of China
Duncan: Show me the permits and impact report you base your argument on. BTW/ the beach shacks that the government is going to rip out in Snooky are built of wood, so in your way of thinking these shacks are made of wood so non-permanent? You believe that and I've got a wonderful bridge here in Snookyville to sell you. (or a real deal on some beach shacks.)
Duncan: Show me the permits and impact report you base your argument on. BTW/ the beach shacks that the government is going to rip out in Snooky are built of wood, so in your way of thinking these shacks are made of wood so non-permanent? You believe that and I've got a wonderful bridge here in Snookyville to sell you. (or a real deal on some beach shacks.)
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I don't have a copy,,, I thought you had the original report.Sailorman wrote:No one has come forth to show that the proper permits were granted to build this structure. Like the beach shacks in Snookyville, it was just probably built with no approval. The Chinese do have a concession in the park, but even with the pay off of the body guard unit, the Cambodia laws still take precedence. I would believe that the same 50 meter rule that governs the Snookyville beach shacks would also govern the building of structures in a National Park that is suppose to be owned by the people of Cambodia and not corrupt companies/developers backed by the government of China
Duncan: Show me the permits and impact report you base your argument on.
BTW/ the beach shacks that the government is going to rip out in Snooky are built of wood, so in your way of thinking these shacks are made of wood so non-permanent? You believe that and I've got a wonderful bridge here in Snookyville to sell you. (or a real deal on some beach shacks.)
OK , send me the money and I'll get one sent to you.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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