Traveling in Times of Coronavirus

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Lol, Somalia might not look so bad considering all the others have chickened out of the game. Will they provide travelers with a kalashnikov along with a visa on arrival at the airport?
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All the countries in the world can be open but Aussie cannot travel overseas unless returning home or business, so it doesn't matter what's open
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Cambodia tourism chiefs call for end to Covid-19 healthcare and funeral deposit

This caught my eye as a ray of hope that they'll be dropping the $3000 soon (1 day after I arrive - as predicted)

But take a look a the final paragrapgh - early 2021 for cross border (T,V & L) and late 2021 for long haul!! Are they serious?

Tourism chiefs in Cambodia say they hope officials will drop a $3,000 (£2,400) coronavirus deposit scheme under which travellers have to make a downpayment for potential medical costs – including their funeral – arguing it is likely to deter potential visitors.

Chhay Sivlin, the president of the Cambodia Association of Travel Agents, said the deposit was introduced because insurance companies had previously refused to cover the cost of coronavirus treatment. “Our government has exhausted our resources and can no longer provide for any tourists tested positive for the disease,” she said.

The new policy was understandable, she said, but she hoped officials would introduce stricter regulation of insurance policies instead, and a requirement for travellers to carry a minimum amount of cash.


Sivlin expects cross-border travel to return by early 2021, but only between neighbouring countries. “The beginning of long-haul travelling is expected to resume in mid-to-late 2021,” she said. “Travel bubbles are still a very new concept, and for it to work potential partnering countries would have to ensure their respective countries are Covid-19 free.”

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Doc67 wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:54 pm Chhay Sivlin, the president of the Cambodia Association of Travel Agents, said the deposit was introduced because insurance companies had previously refused to cover the cost of coronavirus treatment. “Our government has exhausted our resources and can no longer provide for any tourists tested positive for the disease,” she said.

The new policy was understandable, she said, but she hoped officials would introduce stricter regulation of insurance policies instead, and a requirement for travellers to carry a minimum amount of cash.
Now this is interesting...

I had previously queried..I think it was on the $3000 topic.. whether the 50k medical insurance requirement had to include wuhan virus coverage or not and whether they would check the fine print on the PDS to verify that. The above suggests no and hence the reason for the $3k requirement as many medical insurances don't cover pandemics.

But then of course, that raises the question of why make the requirement for medical insurance that doesn't necessarily include pandemics when there was never such requirement pre-virus?

Policy on the hop?
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Virus-Free Vietnam Not Ready to Open Doors to Foreign Tourists Yet: PM
25/06/20 22:27
HANOI, June (Reuters) - Despite successfully containing its COVID-19 outbreak, Vietnam has no plans to open up to international tourists yet, Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc said on Wednesday (Jun 24).

There are fears that doing so could lead to a second wave of infections, he added in a statement.

Thanks to an aggressive, targeted testing programme and a centralised quarantine system, Vietnam has contained infections numbers to a relatively low 352 cases, most of whom have recovered. There have been no reported deaths.

"There is no story of rushing to open the doors," Prime Minister Nguyen said in the statement that was posted to the government website.
"Vietnam is not yet ready to welcome back international tourists. Foreign experts, high level workers and investors into Vietnam are welcomed but will be closely monitored."
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clutchcargo wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:20 pm
Doc67 wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:54 pm Chhay Sivlin, the president of the Cambodia Association of Travel Agents, said the deposit was introduced because insurance companies had previously refused to cover the cost of coronavirus treatment. “Our government has exhausted our resources and can no longer provide for any tourists tested positive for the disease,” she said.

The new policy was understandable, she said, but she hoped officials would introduce stricter regulation of insurance policies instead, and a requirement for travellers to carry a minimum amount of cash.
Now this is interesting...

I had previously queried..I think it was on the $3000 topic.. whether the 50k medical insurance requirement had to include wuhan virus coverage or not and whether they would check the fine print on the PDS to verify that. The above suggests no and hence the reason for the $3k requirement as many medical insurances don't cover pandemics.

But then of course, that raises the question of why make the requirement for medical insurance that doesn't necessarily include pandemics when there was never such requirement pre-virus?

Policy on the hop?
Policy on the hop?
For sure.

There was never any hope of proper scrutiny of policies for every passenger. The $3000 is a crude fix for the time being but it is bureaucratic and there is not much room for profiteering beyond the hotel kick backs.

A simple insurance policy solely for Covid-19 and covering you for no more than 1 month, issued as soon as you get off the plane for a fee of, say $100, might do the trick. As I have said before, I would much rather pay $100 or even $200 and never see it again than have to chase them to get a $3000 refund.
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although this is Thailand
it goes for Cambodia,Vietnam,Laos, Bali, etc etc as well

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phuketrichard wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:08 pm although this is Thailand
it goes for Cambodia,Vietnam,Laos, Bali, etc etc as well

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That sounds like good advice, don't go buying any tickets yet.
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Europe Welcomes Tourists From 14 Countries But Continues to Ban Americans
From July 1, visitors from "safe" countries such as Canada and Australia will be permitted entry to the EU.
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June 30, 2020, 9:45am

As of tomorrow, travellers from at least 14 countries including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and Thailand will be allowed to enter the European Union, after representatives from the EU’s member states deemed those nations “safe”.

Travellers from China will also be permitted entry, as long as Beijing reciprocates the gesture, while citizens of the United States remain banned due to the country’s rising coronavirus infection rate.

The announcement comes as the EU bloc moves to reopen its borders in an attempt to save the European tourism season, while at the same time minimising the lingering threat of COVID-19, according to The Guardian. Other countries whose citizens the EU has decided should be allowed to enter include Algeria, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Tunisia, and Uruguay.

Citizens from the US, Brazil, Russia, and India—where infection rates continue to rise—will continue to be excluded. The so-called “safe list” will be updated every fortnight, however, and is only advisory, meaning EU member states can deviate at their will. The UK has in this case been treated as a member state, despite withdrawing from the EU in January.

Travellers’ freedom of movement will also remain constrained by whatever rules have been put in place by their own countries. Australian citizens and residents, for example, are currently banned from travelling overseas without an exemption. Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has given little to no indication that this will be lifted any time soon, nor that citizens from the EU will be allowed to travel to Australia.

The countries included in the safe list were selected based on the reliability of their data, the likelihood of reciprocity, and their infection rates. The threshold for the latter was an infection rate of around 16 per 100,000 inhabitants—and only countries with comparable or better rates were eligible for consideration.

“The decision to lift restrictions for a specific country should be based on the epidemiological situation and coronavirus response in that country, the ability to apply containment measures during travel, and whether or not that country has lifted travel restrictions towards the EU,” the Union declared in a statement. “Restrictions should be lifted first with countries whose epidemiological situation is similar to the EU average and where sufficient capabilities to deal with the virus are in place.

“Restrictions should remain in place for countries whose situation is worse than in the EU.”
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Viet Nam PM OKs flights to/from China and other international COMMERCIAL flights.

Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc has allowed the resumption of commercial flights to and from China after five months of shutdown to contain Covid-19.

Aviation authorities in Vietnam and China still need consensus on the frequency and conditions of transporting passengers, the Government Office stated Sunday, citing a prime ministerial directive.
And further more . . .

Phnom Penh is on the soon-to-be-immediate list:
In the latest directive, the PM also assigned the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Transport to increase repatriation flights and reopen commercial services to South Korea's Seoul, Japan's Tokyo, Taiwan, Vientiane in Laos and Phnom Penh in Cambodia to bring Vietnamese abroad home.
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietn ... 29760.html

This Saigon Times story gives a bit of a different spin on the future promise.

https://english.thesaigontimes.vn/77583 ... china.html
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