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I am visiting Vancouver next April and am planning to break up the flight from PP.

I was thinking of either a two day stopover in Tokyo or Seoul, mostly for the purpose of a 4-5 hour flight there which is easy, and then the flight to Vancouver being under 10 hours.

I have never been to either country so any suggestions, tips or whatever gratefully recieved.

As always, many thanks in advance...
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Seoul by a long shot. Maglev train from Inchon into the city, killer food, far more vibrant and foreigner-friendly city.
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If you're "new" to Vancouver, watch your stuff. Lots of transients and property theft going on, at least compared to before. It's by no means worse than Cambodia, but it's nothing like it used to be and I've heard of a lot of people being surprised that their stuff gets stolen or broken into. Just recently "we" hit the news because a Toronto Raptors player had his airBnb broken into and lost all his stuff.

Korea. I'm biased towards Seoul as I really enjoyed my time there. At the airport there was a tour you could take without a visitor visa where it was an hour bus ride to the city (Incheon airport is about an hour away from anywhere), and then you'd get taken through a castle, a temple and various other places, and Incheon airport is one of the best in the world in my opinion. Last time coming to Cambodia I stayed just in the airport for 18 hours and didn't mind. I watched a string quartet perform, I went shopping at various overpriced but interesting stores, I had a nice hot shower at the complimentary showers, and then fell asleep in a rest lounge (reclining chair) for a decent night sleep.

If you get a visa, there's so many places you can visit it's hard to say, so I'd just hit up youtube and get an idea. I personally went to a few shopping complexes, a tech show that happened to be going on, a museum, and hit up every street food cart I could because I was curious. I only stayed a day. I even got to speak Japanese to a few people when my broken sad Korean ability failed me.

Tokyo for me has no real appeal, but I'm that's probably because I come from Osaka. Similar situation as you might need a tourist visa to do anything outside the airport, and the airport itself is at least an hour away by bus from the city if you go through Tokyo. Only real advice I can give is to go through Haneda airport rather than Narita as it's way nicer and pleasant. If you're more interested in traditional sight seeing, I suggest if possible to go through Kansai airport in Osaka and then if you want, travel to Kyoto, Kobe, Nara etc. Everything is accessible by train but it can be a bit overwhelming if you're on a short time table.

If you're only going a couple of days, frankly you're not going to see much and if I had to make a choice, I'd go to Seoul and sign up for one of those organized tours if they still exist. If not, then it's not too hard to go to the city either or, and venturing around on my own didn't feel too overwhelming for me, although the pace of things was rather fast.

Sorry, just the thoughts off the top of my head.
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Isaanbarang wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:36 am Seoul by a long shot. Maglev train from Inchon into the city, killer food, far more vibrant and foreigner-friendly city.
I've not been to Tokyo, so can't compare sorry - but have to agree with Isaanbarang that Seoul is a great city, easy to access and the food is astounding.
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While the crime rate in Vancouver may be higher than in the past, it is still lower than the closest American city, Seattle.
There is the added bonus of legal weed, with a ganga smoking area on the lower level just outside US customs.
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As someone who has spent a significant amount of time in both places, if you only have one opportunity to visit either place, I'd strongly recommend tokyo. It's an amazing, world-class city, with an unlimited amount of things to do and see. It's huge and a bit tricky to navigate, but most of what you'd want to experience is within a small radius. Seoul is nice, no but it's not to the level of Tokyo. It actually feels like a quieter, grubbier, smaller Tokyo, with no real city centre.
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I suggest Tokyo over Seoul. I have spent time in both cities and found Seoul quite dull and less friendly. Much better food in Tokyo too. Whilst I like korean food, I found there wasn't much variation.
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Isaanbarang wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am While the crime rate in Vancouver may be higher than in the past, it is still lower than the closest American city, Seattle.
There is the added bonus of legal weed, with a ganga smoking area on the lower level just outside US customs.
Vancouver is full of homeless people. As are Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles.
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Cam Nivag wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:10 pm
Isaanbarang wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am While the crime rate in Vancouver may be higher than in the past, it is still lower than the closest American city, Seattle.
There is the added bonus of legal weed, with a ganga smoking area on the lower level just outside US customs.
Vancouver is full of homeless people. As are Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles.
According to the 2017 Metro Vancouver Homeless Count, there was 3.486 homeless in Metro Vancouver. Metro Vancouver had a population of 2,463,431 residents in 2016. That would mean the homeless rate of Vancouver is.0.14064697609% or 1 in every 711 Vancouver residents. The Metro Vancouver Homeless Count was a joint venture of the government of Canada, City of Vancouver, The Native Housing Society, The Vancouver Foundation, the Surrey Homeless and Housing Society, Fostering Change and the Port of Metro Vancouver. The survey was taken by 1,186 volunteers. You could believe them or you could believe Cam Nivag who may have once spent an hour and a half waiting for a connecting flight in the international terminal at Vancouver Airport drinking coffee at Starbucks. I know which source has more credibility to me.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/ ... sCount.pdf
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Anthony's Weiner wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:52 pm According to the 2017 Metro Vancouver Homeless Count, there was 3.486 homeless in Metro Vancouver.
One of them had a severe case of leprosy.
You could be next.
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