Quarantine-Free New Zealand to Australia Travel

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:33 pm

lagrange wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:45 pm Last week they announced that the current travel ban on Australians leaving the country will probably stay until the end of 2021. I guess I just don't get that. Nearly every other country in the world allows its citizens to leave if they want to, and if they can get a flight - sure, Covid tests, quarantine on return, but can still leave. And not letting travellers in, understandable, many countries are the same. But not allowed to leave? Beats me.

Yep, that has never made any sense to me either. If you return there is a normal quarantine process...so, what's the issue/risk? ..unless you're a nanny state..

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:41 pm

crob wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:08 pm
lagrange wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:45 pm Last week they announced that the current travel ban on Australians leaving the country will probably stay until the end of 2021. I guess I just don't get that. Nearly every other country in the world allows its citizens to leave if they want to, and if they can get a flight - sure, Covid tests, quarantine on return, but can still leave. And not letting travellers in, understandable, many countries are the same. But not allowed to leave? Beats me.
I expect the travel bans to lift my mid-2021, people are over this shit

I would hazard a guess though that it will be a hell of a lot harder for OZ and NZ gov'ts to make the decision to lift their borders after there efforts in the goal of trying to eradicate the Wuhan virus. Compare that with the state of affairs in Europe, UK and US..

Because if they open borders and there are outbreaks of the virus, they'll think ''what was the point of it all'' before if we now allow this to happen. Big loss of face imo Or maybe they are hanging their hopes on a vaccine to come in time so as to save face.

crob · Post by **crob** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:31 am

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:41 pm
crob wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:08 pm
lagrange wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:45 pm Last week they announced that the current travel ban on Australians leaving the country will probably stay until the end of 2021. I guess I just don't get that. Nearly every other country in the world allows its citizens to leave if they want to, and if they can get a flight - sure, Covid tests, quarantine on return, but can still leave. And not letting travellers in, understandable, many countries are the same. But not allowed to leave? Beats me.
I expect the travel bans to lift my mid-2021, people are over this shit
I would hazard a guess though that it will be a hell of a lot harder for OZ and NZ gov'ts to make the decision to lift their borders after there efforts in the goal of trying to eradicate the Wuhan virus. Compare that with the state of affairs in Europe, UK and US..

Because if they open borders and there are outbreaks of the virus, they'll think ''what was the point of it all'' before if we now allow this to happen. Big loss of face imo Or maybe they are hanging their hopes on a vaccine to come in time so as to save face.

good point, I'm just hoping that some travel bubble start to open with minmal quratine...

bittermelon · Post by **bittermelon** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:47 am

lagrange wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:45 pm Last week they announced that the current travel ban on Australians leaving the country will probably stay until the end of 2021. I guess I just don't get that. Nearly every other country in the world allows its citizens to leave if they want to, and if they can get a flight - sure, Covid tests, quarantine on return, but can still leave. And not letting travellers in, understandable, many countries are the same. But not allowed to leave? Beats me.

It is strange. Are there any other countries that are imprisoning their citizens like this?
Guess originally it was a prison.

jaynewcastle · Post by **jaynewcastle** » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 am

How are the citizens imprisoned ?

Australia is the 5th biggest country in the world, compare that to the size of the average prison cell

I think people need to recognise the seriousness of whats going on globally to be honest

atst · Post by **atst** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:43 am

jaynewcastle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 am How are the citizens imprisoned ?

Australia is the 5th biggest country in the world, compare that to the size of the average prison cell

I think people need to recognise the seriousness of whats going on globally to be honest

It may be a big country but you cannot leave it, that's what he means

johnny lightning · Post by **johnny lightning** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:06 am

He knows that. It's a windup and defense of his country's policies at the same time. As for the seriousness of the situation, most are fully aware of it. That said, nobody expected a bastion of freedom and democracy (it still is, no?) to implement emigration policies akin to North Korea. Even a kindred nanny state such as Canada did not go that far. I arrived in Mexico 2 weeks ago and despite the problems they are having I can enjoy some fine weather and sit outside almost everywhere. Should arrive back in the great white north just in time for my vaccination.

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