Phu Quoc, no longer the 'last paradise' of Vietnam?

blueman.cambodia · Post by **blueman.cambodia** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:48 am

Ong Tay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:21 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 am In 2018, the Prime Minister of Vietnam signed off on a 99 year lease agreement on the entire island of Phu Quoc, with a Chinese company backed by the Chinese government. Freehold land titles were extinguished.
Utter nonsense...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com ... a-44146611

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:03 am

Ong Tay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:21 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 am In 2018, the Prime Minister of Vietnam signed off on a 99 year lease agreement on the entire island of Phu Quoc, with a Chinese company backed by the Chinese government. Freehold land titles were extinguished.
Utter nonsense...

Not entirely. At one point, the government wanted to give half the Central Highlands to China. That caused huge protests and even General Giap spoke out against it. The government caved eventually, and it wasn't the only time. Not much love lost for the Chinese in this country.

oasisbarhatien · Post by **oasisbarhatien** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:30 am

blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:48 am
Ong Tay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:21 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 am In 2018, the Prime Minister of Vietnam signed off on a 99 year lease agreement on the entire island of Phu Quoc, with a Chinese company backed by the Chinese government. Freehold land titles were extinguished.
Utter nonsense...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com ... a-44146611

Exactly-As this article says, it was proposed but never happened. The prime minister did NOT sign a 99 year lease on the island of Phu Quoc with anyone , let alone a Chinese company. Also , AFAIK , there are no freehold land titles in Vietnam . All the land is owned by "The people" i.e. the Government, and individuals/companies hold a lease on it , commonly 50 years. Certainly the Land registration documents (usually referred to as red books) that my wife has have this clearly entered on them, and all the other ones I have ever seen , when we were looking at buying land were the same.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:57 am

oasisbarhatien wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:30 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:48 am
Ong Tay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:21 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 am In 2018, the Prime Minister of Vietnam signed off on a 99 year lease agreement on the entire island of Phu Quoc, with a Chinese company backed by the Chinese government. Freehold land titles were extinguished.
Utter nonsense...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com ... a-44146611
Exactly-As this article says, it was proposed but never happened. The prime minister did NOT sign a 99 year lease on the island of Phu Quoc with anyone , let alone a Chinese company. Also , AFAIK , there are no freehold land titles in Vietnam . All the land is owned by "The people" i.e. the Government, and individuals/companies hold a lease on it , commonly 50 years. Certainly the Land registration documents (usually referred to as red books) that my wife has have this clearly entered on them, and all the other ones I have ever seen , when we were looking at buying land were the same.

Living in Vietnam, you do know that there is the official way and the unofficial way?

Ryan754326 · Post by **Ryan754326** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:33 am

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:03 am

Not entirely. At one point, the government wanted to give half the Central Highlands to China. That caused huge protests and even General Giap spoke out against it. The government caved eventually, and it wasn't the only time. Not much love lost for the Chinese in this country.

What was their motivation behind wanting to do this? Isn’t the central highlands where most of their vegetables are produced?

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:34 am

Ryan754326 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:33 am
hanno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:03 am

Not entirely. At one point, the government wanted to give half the Central Highlands to China. That caused huge protests and even General Giap spoke out against it. The government caved eventually, and it wasn't the only time. Not much love lost for the Chinese in this country.
What was their motivation behind wanting to do this? Isn’t the central highlands where most of their vegetables are produced?

I believe it was about the timber. Back then, China had stopped logging within its own country and looked for timber elsewhere (as they do in Laos and Cambodia).

Ong Tay · Post by **Ong Tay** » Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:54 pm

hanno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:03 am
Ong Tay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:21 am
blueman.cambodia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:13 am In 2018, the Prime Minister of Vietnam signed off on a 99 year lease agreement on the entire island of Phu Quoc, with a Chinese company backed by the Chinese government. Freehold land titles were extinguished.
Utter nonsense...
Not entirely. At one point, the government wanted to give half the Central Highlands to China. That caused huge protests and even General Giap spoke out against it. The government caved eventually, and it wasn't the only time. Not much love lost for the Chinese in this country.

My point was that while it was proposed, it was withdrawn. And I believe it related to special economic zones (one of which was in PQ, but not the entire island).

The Vietnamese are very capable of ruining their own country without China's help!

CEOCambodiaNews · Post by **CEOCambodiaNews** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:39 pm

Phu Quoc island to be re-opened for foreign tourists in October
The Mekong Delta province of Kien Giang is preparing for a pilot plan on welcoming international tourists with vaccine passports to its Phu Quoc resort island for six months from October in a bid to revive its tourism industry.
VNA Friday, September 10, 2021 18:09

(Photo: hanoimoi.com.vn)
Hanoi (VNA) - The Mekong Delta province of Kien Giang is preparing for a pilot plan on welcoming international tourists with vaccine passports to its Phu Quoc resort island for six months from October in a bid to revive its tourism industry.

According to a draft pilot scheme, the plan targets foreign tourists who have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or those with certificates of recovery from COVID-19 recognised by an authorised agency in Vietnam.

Eligible tourists should be given their second shots at least 14 days and no more than 12 months before their entry. For those who have recovered from COVID-19, the time from hospital discharge to their entry date must not exceed 12 months. Travelers will be requested for a RT-PCR test within 72 hours prior to their departure, and certified negative for COVID-19 in English by authorities of the country that conduct the test.
The scheme will be applied for visitors who have registered to join package tours of travel agencies.
More: https://en.vietnamplus.vn/phu-quoc-isla ... 207799.vnp

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:54 am

seems already pushed to Nov;

Vietnam’s Phu Quoc Island will be the country’s first tourist destination reopened to fully-vaccinated foreign visitors beginning in November, according to the government website, which cited the tourism administration.

Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh approved the plan on a pilot basis, according to the government website. Foreign travellers will be required to have received their second vaccine shot at least 14 days before travelling to the island in the southern province of Kien Giang and no more than 12 months ahead of arrival.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2181003

i expect it will be same as Phuket sandbox,
LOw cases for overseas arrivals but positive cases will climb fast with non vaccinated/infected workers arriving.
isnt' vaccinated people rather low in Vietnam?
Kien Giang province has administered at least one vaccine shot to 23.6% of its population 18 or older, according to the health ministry. Chinh ordered the island to receive priority for vaccines.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:15 am

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:54 am seems already pushed to Nov;
Vietnam’s Phu Quoc Island will be the country’s first tourist destination reopened to fully-vaccinated foreign visitors beginning in November, according to the government website, which cited the tourism administration.

Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh approved the plan on a pilot basis, according to the government website. Foreign travellers will be required to have received their second vaccine shot at least 14 days before travelling to the island in the southern province of Kien Giang and no more than 12 months ahead of arrival.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2181003

i expect it will be same as Phuket sandbox,
LOw cases for overseas arrivals but positive cases will climb fast with non vaccinated/infected workers arriving.
isnt' vaccinated people rather low in Vietnam?
Kien Giang province has administered at least one vaccine shot to 23.6% of its population 18 or older, according to the health ministry. Chinh ordered the island to receive priority for vaccines.

Vaccination rates overall are still very low, but I got my second shot a couple of hours ago, thanks to some friends. They did manage to jab a million people in Hanoi the last couple of days, so things are speeding up. Some domestic flights are starting from the 19th. Requirements: fully vaccinated or recovered and a negative test. Too much hassle for me to fly at this time.

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