Cambodia ranks fourth for friendliness towards foreign residents

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clutchcargo wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:18 pm
Anchor Moy wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:11 pm
I have had multiple women scream and be very aggressive when looking at apartments.
Multiple women screaming at you ? Wow; there is something wrong here. :argue:
Def agree. There would have to be quite a big trigger for one Asian woman to start screaming and be aggressive at you...let alone multiple women..

Has to be a back story there.. :popcorn:
Yes, this is one person's take on renting an apartment. There could be all sorts of reasons why a landlord is openly agressive toward a future tenant, but I can't think of one off-hand ?
But if that happens, why not just go, ok I don't think this is the right place for me, and move elsewhere. Who wants a psycho landlord anyway ? More trouble ahead. Forget it.

I did have a psycho landlady one time. She was always nice to me, but I heard her tell other tenants to fuck off and never come back. I was actually quite happy that she got rid of the people who caused trouble and drama. She was running the place and she decided who stayed there. It was good for the community that she got rid of the deadbeats and I think that most of us were fine with her decisions. She did scream a bit , but in the end, she got results.
Usually, if a landlord/lady screams at you, there is a reason, so look at how YOU behaved. All that is my opinion etc.
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I don’t even notice it to be honest. It’s just the way it is.
Bought some stuff from Aeon. Took over an hour for them to put it through checkout. Open the box. Seal it up. Open it back up. Take it away somewhere. Bring the same model but a different box. Open it up etc etc.
Same at Super Duper. How hard is it to put stuff in a bag. Very.

Terrible service but always friendly and courteous.

As to women or people going postal. Never in 7 years. Not even when I was in my 20s in Thailand, apart from that fat chick who tried to shove her very hairy minge in my face. My mate got it worse. She wiped her fingers over his lips after… well you know the rest.
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You don't have to lecture me; I am not a child. The response reflects more on you because I am just giving an honest opinion and experiences. This problem is not just with landlords; it is everywhere. Most people who were thinking of relocating would feel exactly the same way, but we have to remember it is 'Rough Guide.'

It was not just one person who did this, it has been many. It is a constant theme, and I can't believe people are not speaking up about it. People here seem to not have any patience for anything. I know I did not do anything as I said before. I think it is very important for people to understand how things work here sometimes. Ask some people who really know from neighboring countries about some things and you may learn a bit more.
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Chad Sexington wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:00 pm
AndyKK wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:55 am It surprises me how some business actually runs here, never mind it being successful, but again we expats are only considered that of paying visitors, and most definitely a minority. It's fair to say that in parts of Asia businesses may be run a little different but too also looked upon differently. An example of what we maybe used too in our western countries is that the person whom is in the store is treated has their potential customer, and its normal for the shopkeeper to accommodate that shopper in general for what they may wish to purchase. Also it's also common for any store to have the attitude of the customer is always right. Because at the end of the day, without customers there is potentially no business. But I find (not everywhere) it seems to be the opposite here, were the customer are/is of less importance, because it seems the shopkeepers attitude is that he/she is of most importance because they have the business, and you are the customer who needs to buy from them.
While I don’t recall having many problems with business owners here (the minor ones I’ve had have been language barrier related)
I actually find it quite refreshing that some business owners here will happily refuse to serve and maybe tell a bad/rude customer to go fuck themselves (or the Khmer equivalent). I always feel sorry for business owners and employees in the West having to suck up abuse from nasty customers because supposedly ‘the customer is always right’.
Not always, sometimes the customer is an arsehole and needs telling, and decent customers would still patronize the business’ of those that did so IMO.
I have been turned down over time, for a few items that some shop keeper would not sell to me. It happened again just the other day, I was looking for wax car polish! Called in at one place and they didn't have exactly what I was wanting, but never the less he was very polite and directed me to who did have the product.
When I arrived at the place, they did indeed have what I required, infact there was a shelf full of tins of wax polish. So I said may I buy a tin, their reply in the store is they have none, I pointed out the product, still they said no, and then I got the message when they did start saying things not needed.
There are some I have known, and my Khmer partner and Khmer friends have confirmed that they will not sell to a western person. You can make the excuses for these types, but they are simply predjodest.
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AndyKK wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:55 am It surprises me how some business actually runs here, never mind it being successful, but again we expats are only considered that of paying visitors, and most definitely a minority. It's fair to say that in parts of Asia businesses may be run a little different but too also looked upon differently. An example of what we maybe used too in our western countries is that the person whom is in the store is treated has their potential customer, and its normal for the shopkeeper to accommodate that shopper in general for what they may wish to purchase. Also it's also common for any store to have the attitude of the customer is always right. Because at the end of the day, without customers there is potentially no business. But I find (not everywhere) it seems to be the opposite here, were the customer are/is of less importance, because it seems the shopkeepers attitude is that he/she is of most importance because they have the business, and you are the customer who needs to buy from them.
Absolutely. It doesn't apply to every business, but I have been in more businesses than I care to remember here where the vibe was definitely that I needed the business more than the business needed me. Despite being able to freely walk out the door and buy what I wanted sometimes right next door.
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I have had to walk out of so many places here; it is unbelievable. I just don't experience that in other countries in this region and most people realize this I think. However, some people are polite and respectful and it's a shame it reflects on them.
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Do you think that the local attitude toward foreigners has changed since Covid ?
Just wondering if that's a factor.
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Whoever said Sumatrans were "top ten friendly" wasn't really paying attention through immigration & never got off a train in Medan!
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I've often wondered how strange it is that as an obvious, white, western looking foreigner, whenever I walk into a shop or business or have any kind of encounter with a Khmer that I don't know, it is automatically assumed that I don't speak any Khmer and that person will either speak to me - or at least try to - in English, or if they really don't speak any English, make an effort to go and find someone who does.

Contrast that with an Asian person having an encounter with a British person in the UK and the story couldn't possibly be more different. There is an underlying, prevailing attitude in the UK - as there is, I assume, in many Western countries - that if you're in MY country and you don't speak MY language then that's YOUR problem.

I've experienced mild versions of this in other Asian countries, but in all my years of being in Cambodia I have never felt that someone had the attitude that me being a foreigner unable to speak fluent Khmer was somehow my problem that deserved the same type of negative attitude they themselves would undoubtedly receive in many western countries if they didn't speak English.
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Mindbasetwo wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:21 pm You don't have to lecture me; I am not a child. The response reflects more on you because I am just giving an honest opinion and experiences. This problem is not just with landlords; it is everywhere. Most people who were thinking of relocating would feel exactly the same way, but we have to remember it is 'Rough Guide.'

It was not just one person who did this, it has been many. It is a constant theme, and I can't believe people are not speaking up about it. People here seem to not have any patience for anything. I know I did not do anything as I said before. I think it is very important for people to understand how things work here sometimes. Ask some people who really know from neighboring countries about some things and you may learn a bit more.
Why do you assume that the people voicing their satisfaction with life in Cambodia and experiencing very different interactions with the natives to what you claim, are being dishonest?
I’d rather not listen to the grumblings of others from wherever in order to be brainwashed into believing I’m not extremely content with Cambodia and it’s people, I doubt I could be swayed anyway.
I’ll go out on a limb here and presume you’re American (purely based on your flag)
Im reminded of those expats who used to prop up the bars, year after year bitching about how everything here is shit, and why can’t it be like it is wherever (insert country of origin) yet remained in Cambodia regardless.
We know many things are different here, for a lot of us that’s part of the appeal, accept and adapt is my personal philosophy, but if you really need everything/body to be like it is in the US I know the ideal spot for you, it’s called America.
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