Yet another mass shooting in the Land of the Free gun ownership
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Re: Yet another mass shooting in the Land of the Free gun ownership
I don't understand what the problem is with letting any nutter buy as many automatic weapons as they like. It's in the constitution, which is the direct word of God.I don't assume anyone from countries outside America will/can understand our culture and way of life and I will/have seen opinions against our 2nd amendment, but unless they are an America voter, there isn't squat they can do about it, but talk about it.
Oh, the irony....Obama-Iben-lying wants to let 200,000 Muslims into America and Hillary want to let even more in. Stupid is just not repairable.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote:hanno wrote:How can it be possible in a supposedly civilized nation to buy a gun powerful enough to kill 50 people? Regardless of whether he is black, white, or green? Especially if it is true what they are saying on BBC; that the killer was known to the FBI.
haha of coarse the FBI knew about him, just like the Mi5 knew about Michael Adebolajo the guy who chopped off Lee Rigbys head in broad daylight in the streets of London, actually they didnt just know about him, they freed him from a Kenyan prison where he was serving a sentence of terrorism charges, brought him back to the UK in order to turn him into an "informant"
most of these acts of terrorism are set up to fuel the "War on Terror"
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Funny, France had gun control but that didn't stop 130 people getting massacred.John Bingham wrote:I don't understand what the problem is with letting any nutter buy as many automatic weapons as they like. It's in the constitution, which is the direct word of God.I don't assume anyone from countries outside America will/can understand our culture and way of life and I will/have seen opinions against our 2nd amendment, but unless they are an America voter, there isn't squat they can do about it, but talk about it.
Oh, the irony....Obama-Iben-lying wants to let 200,000 Muslims into America and Hillary want to let even more in. Stupid is just not repairable.
Clearly gun control is the issue and not the common link between both attacks... ISLAM.
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try using things other than guns or bombs to commit "terrorism" and this would happen,
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hanno wrote:Whilst it is actually useless to talk to you, I would like to point out that there was an armed guard who exchanged fire with the assailant. However, thanks to the NRA carried an AR-15, far outgunning the security guard. Of course you will argue that if the security guard had had a M-60, this would not have happenedSailorman wrote:Reliance of the Traveler (Sharia Manual)
Sec. P 17.3
"The Prophet said:"
"1) Kill the one who sodomises and the one who lets it be done to him."
"2) "May Allah curse him who does what Lots people did."
Lovely Religion, Not!
Where was the armed security at this place? My guess is that this club was in violation of state/local laws on armed security. I wonder if people were searched for weapons while entering? According to reports, Omar Mateen was a devote Muslim. (and not caucasion) How about some investigation into the mosque where he got his ideas? One armed guard or person with a carry permit would have nailed this Islamic nut. Its interesting that most "mass shootings" in America are done in areas where by law an American cannot carry a personal defense weapon. Time to change the laws. I don't assume anyone from countries outside America will/can understand our culture and way of life and I will/have seen opinions against our 2nd amendment, but unless they are an America voter, there isn't squat they can do about it, but talk about it. Obama-Iben-lying wants to let 200,000 Muslims into America and Hillary want to let even more in. Stupid is just not repairable.
Leviticus 18: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13[2]
Why reference the Old Testament , are you trying to make a connection with Christianity or highlight the fact that the Jew's book is worst than the Muslims and started it all?
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Re: Yet another mass shooting in the Land of the Free gun ownership
ot mien kampf wrote:Jamie_Lambo wrote:hanno wrote:How can it be possible in a supposedly civilized nation to buy a gun powerful enough to kill 50 people? Regardless of whether he is black, white, or green? Especially if it is true what they are saying on BBC; that the killer was known to the FBI.
haha of coarse the FBI knew about him, just like the Mi5 knew about Michael Adebolajo the guy who chopped off Lee Rigbys head in broad daylight in the streets of London, actually they didnt just know about him, they freed him from a Kenyan prison where he was serving a sentence of terrorism charges, brought him back to the UK in order to turn him into an "informant"
most of these acts of terrorism are set up to fuel the "War on Terror"
yes.....conspiracy... of coarse... https://www.google.com.kh/#q=lee+rigby+ ... nya+prison
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He was a British citizen though and the Kenyans declined to press charges (Wikipedia). I'd think the Kenyans agreed to have him taken off their hands, like the extradited pedophiles from Cambodia.Jamie_Lambo wrote:ot mien kampf wrote:Jamie_Lambo wrote:hanno wrote:How can it be possible in a supposedly civilized nation to buy a gun powerful enough to kill 50 people? Regardless of whether he is black, white, or green? Especially if it is true what they are saying on BBC; that the killer was known to the FBI.
haha of coarse the FBI knew about him, just like the Mi5 knew about Michael Adebolajo the guy who chopped off Lee Rigbys head in broad daylight in the streets of London, actually they didnt just know about him, they freed him from a Kenyan prison where he was serving a sentence of terrorism charges, brought him back to the UK in order to turn him into an "informant"
most of these acts of terrorism are set up to fuel the "War on Terror"
yes.....conspiracy... of coarse... https://www.google.com.kh/#q=lee+rigby+ ... nya+prison
Pretty strange to be arguing in defense of a Muslim, but I don't see how a country taking back its deported citizen is a conspiracy.
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The only four books considered by Muslims to have been revealed by God are the Torah (revealed to Moses), Psalms (revealed to David), The Gospel (revealed to Jesus) and the Qur'an (revealed to Mohammed), so there certainly is some sort of development and connection between them.Алина Анисимов wrote:
Why reference the Old Testament , are you trying to make a connection with Christianity or highlight the fact that the Jew's book is worst than the Muslims and started it all?
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Against religion? Yes, I guess I am in general. I'm also against nutters and go a long way to avoid them if I can, especially if they have automatic weapons. Your just doing what certain Muslims do, blaming the religion because your getting a lot of propaganda thrown at you about how unsafe everywhere is because of them. That's the same argument I keep hearing from the other side too. They blame all Americans/westerners for their imperialism that has cost the lives of countless thousands of innocents. You keep blaming all Muslims for the terrorist attacks.ot mien kampf wrote:So how did they manage to do it in France with all the gun control laws? The common factor was an Islamist terrorist.hanno wrote:How can it be possible in a supposedly civilized nation to buy a gun powerful enough to kill 50 people? Regardless of whether he is black, white, or green? Especially if it is true what they are saying on BBC; that the killer was known to the FBI.
Anyway, I found this comment which sums up the situation perfectly.
A minority that has been constantly advocated for by the left suddenly went out and slaughtered another minority advocated for by the left. And all you people are doing is trying to deny any link to Islam.Even after Bataclan you could sense some degree of "fatigue".
People don't really know what to say about Islam anymore. They've been telling us this religion wuz a gud boy one time too many, to the point where those incantations don't really have the desired effect.
It's completely worn out and everyone knew what every body else was going to say even before all the bodies were dragged off to the morgue. But nobody on the left is ready to face the consequences of the basic realization that Islam sucks : to the general public Donald Trump is looking increasingly right in saying Muslims should not be welcomed into non Islamic nations.
But the real problem here is Europe. Now more than ever it is impossible for this idiotic continent to realize or acknowledge that uncontrolled Islam and Islamic immigration was a terrible mistake, since they're already knee deep in it. So while everyone understands and realize that there is a problem, no one knows how to stop it, and so we're at a point now where every body is gonna pretend like nothing is happening while knowing full well that "it" is "happening", because the pain of contemplating the consequences of the truth are just too great.
This is all compounded by the fact that this particular attack wasn't SOME FUCKING WHITE MALE attacking some minority group, but rather was an instance of the oppression totem cannibalizing itself. Suddenly, a minority wasn't simply reacting to the evil Whites, but was rather showing initiative and agency in his attack. No foreign policy, no discrimination, no white guy on the horizon. Just an American Muslim shooting up gay Latinos.
It's really sad just how far into damage control society has gone. Islam is a problem, just like all other religions. However the left comes out and defends Islam while criticizing the other religions. Literally every single one of you went "what about the Christians?" to deflect from the issue.
There's no constructive discussion so the situation will explode in the not to distant future. Either peacefully admit fault with Islam now, like you do with Christianity, or see society fracture into a war once the issue becomes so partisan. You do realize that by completely stifling debate, people won't stop thinking those thoughts, they'll go where they can think them? Criticizing religion isn't some horrific thing to do, but the left is increasingly acting like it is. Secularism was the basis of Western enlightenment. You can't see the problem with actively fighting against one of the oldest tenets of the modern Western world and then acting offended when people persist in doing it?
No doubt I'll just get 10 more "Islam isn't the problem, bigot" comments.
Nothing will change except the introduction of more draconian laws because, I believe, the powers that be invented the whole situation in the first place.
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