Barang chgout wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:59 pm

Kammekor wrote:

whatwat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm It’s interesting that the same people regurgitate the same old complaints whenever Chinese are mentioned. Yawn.

Did anyone actually read all the article?

Oh, and I went to the big market yesterday. It isn’t all Chinese at all. Majority are locals.

As the article says, if you bothered to read it, it’s (Chinese migration) been happening for centuries and will continue to be that way.
Long after most of us are distance “long nose” memories.


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It's been happening for centuries, but not at this scale.....

The government aims for 2.000.000 in 2030. That's 1 Chinese for 8 Cambodians. Imagine what that kind of immigration would do to your home country.

Every Cambosian is Chinese, just ask around at Chinese new year!

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Every Westerner is Christian, ask around Xmas...

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:39 pm

Jim Gil wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:09 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:48 pm

whatwat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm It’s interesting that the same people regurgitate the same old complaints whenever Chinese are mentioned. Yawn.

Did anyone actually read all the article?

Oh, and I went to the big market yesterday. It isn’t all Chinese at all. Majority are locals.

As the article says, if you bothered to read it, it’s (Chinese migration) been happening for centuries and will continue to be that way.
Long after most of us are distance “long nose” memories.


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It's been happening for centuries, but not at this scale.....

The government aims for 2.000.000 in 2030. That's 1 Chinese for 8 Cambodians. Imagine what that kind of immigration would do to your home country.

Have you been to Western Europe? Sure it has it's own problems but for the most part people find a way of getting on with their lives.
Some will point to every negative stereotypical news article as proof that it doesn't work but for the most part people are just trying to improve their lives. Unfortunately the poorest in any society will always feel the effects of mass immigration first and most painfully.
Emmigration/Immigration has been going on since the first peoples walked out of Africa or since Adam and Eve, take your pick.
It seems that the poor in Cambodia need to look elsewhere for somebody to blame.



And remember folks " the revolution is just a t-shirt away"

I am from Western Europe. Immigration is major issue there, and one of the reasons Brexit happened.....

Here the issues with immigration are very different. There's no level playing field. The poor in Cambodia are f*cked. They are not protected by their own government, the government doesn't enforce laws if you give them a few bucks under the table, there is no decent education for all, so there's large amounts of Cambodians unable to compete with the immigrants. They are simply a walk over, and will be pushed aside.

The poor in Cambodia have always been f*cked, it's just my point of view on it is why?, if its so much worse at the moment its not the fault of the Chinese. Vietnam has exactly the same problem with this but it seems they either aren't quite as corrupt or they have the balls to stand up to them and actually lay down a few ground rules.
The ruling elite has allowed Cambodia to be whored out, especially in the last 20yrs and the poor, on the whole, have turned a blind eye to it as long as it hasn't directly effected them and their standard of living got better. I don't blame them as everyone wants better for the next generation. They have been sold out by their own.

I'm from the U.K and would say Immigration is the main reason Brexit happened, but the majority of the leave vote was the older less educated sector of the population ( growing up as a working class lad now 50) from which I'm from. I certainly don't think joining the EU was a good decision but I do think leaving it will be really bad for the poorest that voted for it.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:48 pm

whatwat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm It’s interesting that the same people regurgitate the same old complaints whenever Chinese are mentioned. Yawn.

Did anyone actually read all the article?

Oh, and I went to the big market yesterday. It isn’t all Chinese at all. Majority are locals.

As the article says, if you bothered to read it, it’s (Chinese migration) been happening for centuries and will continue to be that way.
Long after most of us are distance “long nose” memories.


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It's been happening for centuries, but not at this scale.....

The government aims for 2.000.000 in 2030. That's 1 Chinese for 8 Cambodians. Imagine what that kind of immigration would do to your home country.

1 in 5 Canadians are immigrants and it hasn t destroyed Canada. 1 in 6 Americans is an immigrant, 1 in 3.5 Australians is an immigrant. Where is your home country?

Kammekor wrote:

Barang chgout wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:59 pm

Kammekor wrote:

whatwat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm It’s interesting that the same people regurgitate the same old complaints whenever Chinese are mentioned. Yawn.

Did anyone actually read all the article?

Oh, and I went to the big market yesterday. It isn’t all Chinese at all. Majority are locals.

As the article says, if you bothered to read it, it’s (Chinese migration) been happening for centuries and will continue to be that way.
Long after most of us are distance “long nose” memories.


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It's been happening for centuries, but not at this scale.....

The government aims for 2.000.000 in 2030. That's 1 Chinese for 8 Cambodians. Imagine what that kind of immigration would do to your home country.

Every Cambosian is Chinese, just ask around at Chinese new year!

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Every Westerner is Christian, ask around Xmas...

Not me. Dont do religious holidays.

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Arget wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:37 am 1 in 5 Canadians are immigrants and it hasn t destroyed Canada. 1 in 6 Americans is an immigrant, 1 in 3.5 Australians is an immigrant. Where is your home country?

Accepting these numbers is also accepting that they are made up of a varied number of ethnicity. The Chinese numbers of 1 in 8 is not in anyway a similar comparison.

^this

All the countries you mention have highly selective immigration laws. Cambodia should have those too. China's geopolitics will crush them if they don't watch their back.

Kammekor wrote:

Arget wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:37 am 1 in 5 Canadians are immigrants and it hasn t destroyed Canada. 1 in 6 Americans is an immigrant, 1 in 3.5 Australians is an immigrant. Where is your home country?

Accepting these numbers is also accepting that they are made up of a varied number of ethnicity. The Chinese numbers of 1 in 8 is not in anyway a similar comparison.

^this

All the countries you mention have highly selective immigration laws. Cambodia should have those too. China's geopolitics will crush them if they don't watch their back.

Australia had sold gas pipelines, farming land and airports to China.
Perhaps the geopolitical stuff is not just Cambodia's concern.


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Barang chgout wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:32 am

Kammekor wrote:

Arget wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:37 am 1 in 5 Canadians are immigrants and it hasn t destroyed Canada. 1 in 6 Americans is an immigrant, 1 in 3.5 Australians is an immigrant. Where is your home country?

Accepting these numbers is also accepting that they are made up of a varied number of ethnicity. The Chinese numbers of 1 in 8 is not in anyway a similar comparison.

^this

All the countries you mention have highly selective immigration laws. Cambodia should have those too. China's geopolitics will crush them if they don't watch their back.

Australia had sold gas pipelines, farming land and airports to China.
Perhaps the geopolitical stuff is not just Cambodia's concern.


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Agreed. But this topic is about Cambodia, so...

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:39 pm

Jim Gil wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:09 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:48 pm

whatwat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm It’s interesting that the same people regurgitate the same old complaints whenever Chinese are mentioned. Yawn.

Did anyone actually read all the article?

Oh, and I went to the big market yesterday. It isn’t all Chinese at all. Majority are locals.

As the article says, if you bothered to read it, it’s (Chinese migration) been happening for centuries and will continue to be that way.
Long after most of us are distance “long nose” memories.


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It's been happening for centuries, but not at this scale.....

The government aims for 2.000.000 in 2030. That's 1 Chinese for 8 Cambodians. Imagine what that kind of immigration would do to your home country.

Have you been to Western Europe? Sure it has it's own problems but for the most part people find a way of getting on with their lives.
Some will point to every negative stereotypical news article as proof that it doesn't work but for the most part people are just trying to improve their lives. Unfortunately the poorest in any society will always feel the effects of mass immigration first and most painfully.
Emmigration/Immigration has been going on since the first peoples walked out of Africa or since Adam and Eve, take your pick.
It seems that the poor in Cambodia need to look elsewhere for somebody to blame.



And remember folks " the revolution is just a t-shirt away"

I am from Western Europe. Immigration is major issue there, and one of the reasons Brexit happened.....

Here the issues with immigration are very different. There's no level playing field. The poor in Cambodia are f*cked. They are not protected by their own government, the government doesn't enforce laws if you give them a few bucks under the table, there is no decent education for all, so there's large amounts of Cambodians unable to compete with the immigrants. They are simply a walk over, and will be pushed aside.

It's a global problem really. I remember in the 90s people from Africa saying there'd be a mass migration north. What the internet/information revolution has done, has let most of the people around the world know that there's a better place for them to be, and most of them do the political calculus, and decide that migrating illegally or not, is the best way. The problem comes when governments and their media machines diverge from what the public want, and that's happening in countries across the world from the UK to Asia and latin america and even parts of Africa. Countries like Australia and Canada with fair but firm immigration systems are considered to be doing it right, but the moment countries in Europe start doing things like that they are called all kinds of terrible names. People attack Trump for his wall, but don't question the people pushing children over the fences, or facilitating human trafficking. As happened in the EU. It's not a very consistent position by the liberal left.