Unfortunately , in your case stupidity never was banned, but they are making breakthroughs in medical science everyday so there is hope for you. (Your the one that brought up medical science and its mistakes.) If I was a religious person I would say I would pray for you, but I'm not so don't expect divine intervention.

No, please1 Don't say that! Sailorman won't pray for me! The anguish! The torment! How will I survive?

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Sailorman wrote:Unfortunately , in your case stupidity never was banned

Look at it this way: if it hadn't been banned, who would you look up to?

Anchor Moy wrote:Vlad you're an English teacher, so I assume that you are deliberately using hyperbole to inflame.But calling Net a nazi is just lazy. What's the argument here? Yes he is, no he isn't ? If this is old news why are you fanning the flames ? Are you missing your "friends" OTOF and you want them to come over to play here ?
So much for your flaming but I just chucked an Anchor on it - thanks samouth.

I get that you're angry, but gesticulating while foaming at the mouth is not going to get your message over any better.

So what did you want to discuss? The terminology used by RT ?

This entire equating the extreme right wing Zionism to Nazism was a hot topic in my debate with Jacked Camry over on backslappers.com.

It may be hyperbole and it may be "provocative" but if you look at the ideologies, dehumanization, racism and other factors driving Israel today, there are many accurate comparisons. Israelis, and Jewish Supporters of Israel in the USA, use the the same propaganda framework that Goebbels used to demonize Jews in Nazi Germany.

The "insult" may be cutting and offensive to some but it also serves to remind us that victims often mimic their oppressors (just as many child abusers were abused Children themselves). People of conscience should seek to do better. Not replicate.

Cheers,

RD

Rain Dog wrote:Israelis, and Jewish Supporters of Israel in the USA, use the the same propaganda framework that Goebbels used to demonize Jews in Nazi Germany.

I am hesitant to wade into this debate again, but I'd like to point out that most of Israel's American support is evangelical Christians. The only Jewish community in the US doing this kind of propaganda are the orthodox, which is a small minority of an already small minority. Talking about "Jewish" support is bullshit. It is "Christian" support.

#OpenBoardersForIsrael

MekongMouse wrote:

Rain Dog wrote:Israelis, and Jewish Supporters of Israel in the USA, use the the same propaganda framework that Goebbels used to demonize Jews in Nazi Germany.

I am hesitant to wade into this debate again, but I'd like to point out that most of Israel's American support is evangelical Christians. The only Jewish community in the US doing this kind of propaganda are the orthodox, which is a small minority of an already small minority. Talking about "Jewish" support is bullshit. It is "Christian" support.

Maybe Israeli Jews but American jews do fuck all for the rest of America besides file lawsuit's.

No idea why American jews back stab Israel so often.

I really dont think its non of our say about that situation. Its been going on for a long ass time and long before Israel appeared on a map. I tend to side with Israel because the Palestinian people keep electing Hamas as their representatives. Also it seems the Palestinians arent up for negotiations other then Israel and Jews need to die.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mid ... story.html

That story is never spoken of by the FreePalastine groupies. Mind you it before the bombings in Gaza,


Had a great convo with a young guy from the West Bank. He pretty much summed up to me he doesnt hate jews he hates Israels govt. But he also said it wasnt so bad where he lived and much of it is news hype.

On another note...why does Israel support ISIS?? Hmmm....

MekongMouse wrote:The only Jewish community in the US doing this kind of propaganda are the orthodox, which is a small minority of an already small minority. Talking about "Jewish" support is bullshit. It is "Christian" support.

Yeah, most of the Propaganda Club in Hollywood are Christians, right? The guy at CNN got fired for daring to deliver a truthful report on Gaza because of a Christian boss, right? The numerous staff at the White House and people in senior government positions, finance, treasury etc, those names are all Christian, right? Netanyahu invaded Congress and gave the bird to the President because of the support of a small group?

MM, you're a nice guy, but get your head out of the sand.

Do a search and find out how many in critical positions, especially in Foreign Affairs and the media are Jewish supporters of Israel' . I know it doesn't necessarily mean they support Netanyahu's vision of more lebensraum, but if someone is working in foreign affairs, and they are part of a policy that supports the present Israel government, I think it's fair to say they support it too.

Do you think your government gives critical life support and discount weapons to a state listed for HR abuses simply because of a few random Jews and some nutter Christians? Without US support, Israel would not exist/survive.

I aware that many Jewish Americans are democrats, and thank God for that. A Jewish friend of mine back home was a very active pro-Palestinian state activist, he realised that the Israeli government is probably doing far more damage to attitudes towards Israeli Jews than anyone else.

Get rid of Netanyahu and bring in a thinking left-wing for dog's sake. Netanyahu is a disease.

Without US support, Israel would not exist/survive.

And thats why we support Israel. Left wing Right wing they all meet in the middle of being fucked up.

What should be mentioned is that the government of Israel is run mostly by Ashkenazi's which are not native Jews of Israel.

So Vlad no mention of Obama sending "advisers" over before the election to help take out Netanyahu?
Why don't you speak of Egypt and Jordon helping the Palestinians???

I mean after all the Palestinian people have contributed so much to the world for example Munich massacre.

Vlad you also fail to differ American Jews and Israelis. Thats like saying I'm the same as a Brazilian Drug Lord because we are both Catholic.

Regardless both sides are wrong and I would wonder if Jews had the numbers Muslims did and Muslims had the number Jews did would the Jews not do the same to Muslims?? Ponder that!!

It's about controlling access to the oil in the region, and the US has a large interest in that due to it's severe need of it to run their superior military power, like in any war, even a cold one, access to oil is vital.

vladimir wrote:

MekongMouse wrote:The only Jewish community in the US doing this kind of propaganda are the orthodox, which is a small minority of an already small minority. Talking about "Jewish" support is bullshit. It is "Christian" support.

Yeah, most of the Propaganda Club in Hollywood are Christians, right? The guy at CNN got fired for daring to deliver a truthful report on Gaza because of a Christian boss, right? The numerous staff at the White House and people in senior government positions, finance, treasury etc, those names are all Christian, right? Netanyahu invaded Congress and gave the bird to the President because of the support of a small group?

MM, you're a nice guy, but get your head out of the sand.

Do a search and find out how many in critical positions, especially in Foreign Affairs and the media are Jewish supporters of Israel' . I know it doesn't necessarily mean they support Netanyahu's vision of more lebensraum, but if someone is working in foreign affairs, and they are part of a policy that supports the present Israel government, I think it's fair to say they support it too.

Do you think your government gives critical life support and discount weapons to a state listed for HR abuses simply because of a few random Jews and some nutter Christians? Without US support, Israel would not exist/survive.

I aware that many Jewish Americans are democrats, and thank God for that. A Jewish friend of mine back home was a very active pro-Palestinian state activist, he realised that the Israeli government is probably doing far more damage to attitudes towards Israeli Jews than anyone else.

Get rid of Netanyahu and bring in a thinking left-wing for dog's sake. Netanyahu is a disease.

I never said anything about a small group of Americans supporting Israel. Jews are a tiny fraction of the American population; what we think doesn't matter. The majority of Americans are Christian, so yeah I'd say it is pretty likely all those people you mention are Christians, sorry to ruin your zionist conspiracy thoeries.

Oh, here's something from Pew: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... sh-people/

twice as many white evangelical Protestants as Jews say that Israel was given to the Jewish people by God (82% vs. 40%). Some of the discrepancy is attributable to Jews’ lower levels of belief in God overall; virtually all evangelicals say they believe in God, compared with 72% of Jews (23% say they do not believe in God and 5% say they don’t know or decline to answer the question). But even Jews who do believe in God are less likely than evangelicals to believe that God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people (55% vs. 82%).

White evangelical Protestants also are more likely than Jews to favor stronger U.S. support of Israel. Among Jews, 54% say American support of the Jewish state is “about right,” while 31% say the U.S. is not supportive enough. By contrast, more white evangelical Protestants say the U.S. is not supportive enough of Israel (46%) than say support is about right (31%).

And WaPo summarizing the report:

On one side are the reform and secular Jews who make up 65 percent of the U.S. Jewish population, sometimes joined by the 17 percent who identify with conservative Judaism. This group is more likely to worry about or criticize Israeli policies toward Palestinians. It's less likely to claim an emotional attachment to Israel and less likely still to argue that the country was promised to Jews by God.

On the other side are the small minority of Orthodox Jews – about 10 percent of American Jews – joined by America's much larger community of white Evangelical Christians. This block is more likely to oppose an independent Palestinian state, to support settlements and to argue that Israel was promised to Jews by God. That last point is particularly important for how you view Israel-Palestine, as it could suggest that Israel should control all Palestinian land outright and permanently – and that seeing this through is a divinely mandated mission.

But noooooooooo, guess its us Jews making trouble again.