Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 10:58 am Some more data on mass shootings:
1. 2018 study indicates that the US ranks 64th in per capita frequency of mass public shootings:


2. Frequency per million, the US ranks 12th:


Caveats:
-The US is more populous than many other countries.
-The FBI changed the definition from 4 to 3 or more people shot.
-The FBI excludes gang/drug disputes.

For more info:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm ... id=3671740

Pages 10-14 are particularly interesting.

…important oversight, again according to snopes, was the report's use of average deaths per capita instead of a more stable metric. Thanks to the smaller populations of most European countries, individual events in those countries had statistically oversized influence and warped the results. For example, Norway’s world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015.

An easy, though arguably insensitive, way to illustrate the shortcomings of this approach is to imagine it applied to the 9/11 attacks, which killed 2,977 people in the United States on a single day in 2001. Running that data through the CRPC formula yields the following statistic: Plane hijackings by terrorists caused an average of 297.7 deaths per year in the U.S. from 2001-2010. This is mathematically accurate, but it paints a badly distorted picture of what actually happened during those ten years.

In addition, the CRPC study went a step further and computed average annual deaths per capita. Critics argue this further warps the data, because Norway’s population is a fraction of the U.S. population. As a result, Norway’s death rate came out more than 20 times higher than that of the U.S.—which tallied 66 deaths in 2012 alone (nearly matching Norway's total for the full study) and averaged at least one death per month for the entire seven-year data

A possible better alternative to the CPRC mass shooter report
The snopes analysis goes on to suggest that instead of computing the average, or mean mass shooting deaths, a better method would be to compute the median, or typical, number of deaths. The median is considered by many statisticians to be better at preventing individual outlier events (such as the Norway massacre) from skewing results, which leads to a more accurate day-to-day impression and country-to-country comparison. Using the CPRC’s own data and more precise per-year population data from World Bank (the original study used only 2015 population data) to solve for the median, the snopes analysis results in a notably different list:

Typical (Median) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):
United States — 0.058
Albania — 0
Austria — 0
Belgium — 0
Czech Republic — 0
Finland — 0
France — 0
Germany — 0
Italy — 0
Macedonia — 0
Netherlands — 0
Norway — 0
Russia — 0
Serbia — 0
Slovakia — 0
Switzerland — 0
United Kingdom — 0
Using the median analysis, the United States is the only country examined that shows a propensity for mass shootings. The data itself supports this interpretation, as the United States endured mass shooting events all seven years, but the other countries all experienced mass shootings during only one or two years. Thus, in a typical year, most countries experience zero mass shooting deaths, while the US experiences at least a few.

Additional reports on mass shootings in the United States and the world
Many other studies and articles also offer opinions or interpretations counter to that of the CPRC. For example, a 2019 paper from Econ Journal Watch, a scholarly economics journal, notes that the CPRC data included many events that would be considered military or terrorist actions, such as when 200 insurgents in Ethiopia attacked an oil field and shot 74 people. While these are undeniably tragic deaths, the EJW proposes that they are not what most people associate with the term "mass shooting" and should not be included.

Additionally, a 2021 BBC article used data from the FBI and the Las Vegas Police to point out that eight of the ten deadliest mass shootings in the past 20 years in the United States occurred between 2001 and 2021 (implying that mass shootings are becoming more frequent). A 2016 paper from the University of Alabama compared 171 countries from 1966 to 2012 and concluded that the United States accounted for only 5% of the world’s population, but 31% of its mass shootings. CPRC has questioned the legitimacy of this report's data. A 2015 Politifact article criticizing then-President Barack Obama’s statement that no other advanced country has mass shootings like the U.S. cited data from 2000 to 2014 to prove that mass shootings do indeed happen in other advanced countries. However, the article conceded that the [U.S. experienced 133 shootings] (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... appen-oth/) during that period, while the next-highest total was Germany with 6. For the full list of countries and various shooter statistics, see the table below.

atst wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:10 pm These charts could be correct

atst wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 6:10 pm These charts could be correct , most of our media is from the US so what happens there is what is reported and with weeks of follow up reporting. Example thousands die in floods in India a quick news snippet, 3 people die in Orlando floods on the news for days if not weeks, and I'm talking about Australia New Zealand media.