Ravensnest wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:10 pm

I'm all for open discussion and I enjoy learning new things every day. I'm currently reading 3 books because I enjoy learning because I only know a small fraction of information. I open the door or you to inform me. But...

You offer 0, none, no information to properly inform me NOR to back your statements up. You only want to attack my character. That is not a discussion. Somehow in recent years, people stopped listening to the "other side" and became selfish to only want to spout out their beliefs then, "fuck you, end of discussion." Online is even worse- people make blanket statements but don't have the brains to back it up- you can google ffs.
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You’re getting carried away with your staunch defence of your nationalistic beliefs that you’ve been spouting off at the mouth with for the past few days. I’m not interested in debating irrelevant differences of laws. The country is in absolute disarray and only appears to be getting worse. Hard to understand why such an open minded fella like yourself (sarcasm) can’t see past your pride and wake up to smell the roses!

sigmoid wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:47 amNot sure where you're getting your info.

Unless you owe a significant amount of child support ($5,000+, I think) or there is a warrant issued for your arrest, living abroad is no problem for Americans.

I'm not really sure how to make this more clear. I'm Not talking about being an American and Traveling somewhere else. I'm talking about Leaving the US. That meme doesn't mean "Love it or go traveling and adventuring for a while." It means Leave the US, for good. That's not so easy to do. The best we can really do is be an American on a long vacation, if we're lucky. Even that is tough in most other first world countries. I can't just go to Europe, find a job, and live there. Say I want to be part of a country that values humanity and wants to work together as a society for the betterment of us all. I can't go to Norway, get citizenship, contribute to and benefit from society, and live and die happily there. All I can do is go to one of the "easy" countries to live in like Cambodia, and even then, in the end, I'm still just an American on long vacation. I can't even buy a house, I have to constantly get work visas renewed in order to stay, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.