Big Daikon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:21 am I'll bite. I'm not embarrassed so much as disappointed and frustrated. I know what I voted for and know what I didn't get.

I can understand that.
When the temperature drops a little and the smoke clears, maybe we all need to understand things from you guys perspective a bit better.
I actually share a big part of Trump's base's concerns. I just never saw him or his shtick as the answer.

I certainly don't want to see their critique of The Swamp forgotten - nor their resistance to uncontrolled free-range globalism. Stuff like that. I also have really strong views on uncontrolled immigration.
But i ain't never going to turn into to a raving alfa-male nationalist. Nor racist in any way.
I reckon that is the BossDevil's work - diverting the focus and anger at all the inequity away from themselves.

Now that the Loonie has moved on, maybe we can all have a more considered discussion about the Trump supporters agenda. ??
(ps, this stuff applies all over the West, not just USA)

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 pm anyone else see the interviews with some Qnon supporters and how they were really figuring he was going to clean house the day of the inauguration
They all said, they were really let down and disappointed




https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/s ... y-n1255002

I also have always had a problem with trump and his , "Make america great again"
what years was he referring to that America was great? the 50's, 60's 80'?

This is what Monomial was on about, the Qanon supporters called it "the storm".
The TL:DR version is, on inauguration day, national power cuts, police and national guard units arrest biden and the dems, trump goes back to the Whitehouse.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pa ... naguration
there's tons more, but that's one example.
There isn't enough Preparation H in the world to ameliorate the butthurt.
"“For many people, there won’t be an easy step back. The engagement cycle has been too addicting and empowering,” said Molly McKew, chief executive of consultancy Fianna Strategies and an information warfare expert. “And what if they decide to latch on to a new, less lazy and incompetent leader than Trump? The power in this belief system hasn’t dispersed yet.”
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... terialize/

Yeah, it is getting better.
I don't really mean just here. The discussion more broadly needs to give serious validity to things that most of the population find unacceptable.
Make no mistake - the elites will try to return to business as usual. They will try to write off any call for change as just Trumpian BS.
If that happens our democracies are going to fracture even more. We do need to make some big changes - but without sinking the ship in the process.

This is one UK take on what happened and what is happening in the USA. Its easy to call trump supporters racist nazis and Biden supporters commie globalists, as usual the truth is a bit more complicated IMO



https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/2 ... new-world/

I wasn't particularly suggesting we start throwing all the rocks and stupid names at the other side instead, Tight. ^^
More of the same? boring

sure, we all have valid bones to pick - but that article is just more of the same ol'
imo

I wasn't suggesting that ?

You must be a speed reader you replied to it a few seconds after i had posted

Yeah. sorry T. I just reacted to the "woke leftie" thing in the article a bit too quick.
Which is a bit funny because i hate a lot of that "woke" stuff myself - the unrealistic sentimentalist kind of idealism.
(i still have similar values, just a bit more gritty hardcore reality based