Northern Ireland terror threat level raised in Britain

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Sure, ignore a thousand years of rape, torture, slavery and starvation inflicted on the Irish population as official British government policy and instead shift blame based on an anecdotal story of a handful of private US citizens, possibly Irish immigrants themselves, who illegally donated a pittance of money to some misguided cause. :facepalm:
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Be a real shame if a handful of extremists ruin the peace again for the 99.9% of the Northern Irish population who just want to live a peaceful life.
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Rutiger wrote:Sure, ignore a thousand years of rape, torture, slavery and starvation inflicted on the Irish population as official British government policy
i think the scottish had it worse :popcorn:
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The fungus Phytophthora infestans, colloquially called potato blight, attacks the edible tuber of the potato, rendering it unfit for consumption. There is no way to tell if a crop has been infested until it is harvested. The blight appeared first in the United States in 1843, showed up in Belgium in 1844, and arrived late in the season in Ireland in 1845. Even with its late arrival, one-third of the Irish potato harvest failed that year. The next year was even worse, in part because the people had eaten the reserve of potatoes that were needed to plant that year’s crop. The same cold, damp climate that allowed the potato to thrive was also a perfect environment for the fungus. Ninety percent of the 1846 harvest was ruined by the blight. The 1847 harvest was the worst; it is remembered today as the Black ’47. Not only did the potato crop fail again, but epidemic disease was ravaging a population weakened by starvation. Typhus was particularly widespread, and the ranks of starving peasants who took to the roads in search of lands not yet hit by the blight only served to spread the epidemic farther. After a brief respite in 1848, the blight returned in 1849, inflicting yet more death and disease before it finally ended.

The response of the British government to the crisis has been subject to intense criticism from the time of the Great Famine onward. Prevailing political ideologies of the time looked askance at state-sponsored relief programs. Free market political economies were the order of the day, and there was a fear that relief programs, even in times of extreme need, would simply encourage laziness and unwillingness to work. When the famine initially struck, there was an outpouring of donations from sympathetic Britons, and the prime minister, Sir Robert Peel (1788–1850), secretly authorized the purchase of 100,000 tons (90,718 metric tons) of U.S. corn for shipment to Ireland in 1846.

That same year, Peel’s ministry was replaced by the Whig government of Lord John Russell (1792–1878), who took a hard-line free-market approach. His government set up work relief programs, which exacerbated the disease problem, as they required starving men to work outside in the winter. The Whig government later opened soup kitchens, which served a barely nutritious gruel. At the end of 1847 the famine was judged to be over and even these meager lifelines were withdrawn. To make matters worse, exports of other edible crops continued unabated, as did the use of barley and corn in Ireland’s profitable distilleries. Private donations from England dried up as well. The official government position from this point forward was that it was the responsibility of the gentlemen landowners to see to their tenants’ welfare.

Many landowners, either short of funds or unwilling to spend the money, simply evicted a number of their tenants. Some went so far as to give them tickets for passage aboard ships bound for the Americas. The forced émigrés joined hundreds of thousands of others who were leaving Ireland voluntarily, bound for England, Canada, the United States, and even Australia. All told, approximately two million Irish men, women, and children fled Ireland during the years of the Great Famine, most of them with just the clothes on their backs. About one million more died, either from starvation or disease. In terms of both death and economic hardship caused, the famine was the greatest human disaster of the nineteenth century.
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The landowners in Ireland weren't all English, there was a significant Anglo-Irish landowning class. Anglo-Irish in that they'd been there for the last 600-odd years, and were proudly Irish (take a look at Wellington, for example). To say that the people living in Ireland are pure Irish is to ignore the fact that since the 12th century there have been significant numbers of English, and when rebelled against Cromwell in the 17th century what you could call native Irish were massacred off. That was the way things were done then, much like the Injuns in the Americas, much like the Ottomans and their enemies, much like every other nation in the world treated it's revolutionary dissidents. Catholic English pretty much made up most of the Pale, but as Catholics they happily married into Irish families. The northern Irish were Scottish people shipped over to fill up what was pretty much vacant scrub plantations and to provide a Protestant buffer to the Irish-Irish in the West. Who are Gaels, related to the Gaels in Scotland directly by blood, so hardly a foreign invasion. After a couple of hundred years living in a country you are certainly from that country. The Irish republic has rescinded their claim to Northern Ireland, they don't want it, but it is certainly run by Irish people. They have Stornomont, their own parliament.
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Rutiger wrote:Sure, ignore a thousand years of rape, torture, slavery and starvation inflicted on the Irish population as official British government policy and instead shift blame based on an anecdotal story of a handful of private US citizens, possibly Irish immigrants themselves, who illegally donated a pittance of money to some misguided cause. :facepalm:

1. Your comment sounds like a hell of a justification speech for the 'old country', the despicable Irish terrorists who killed many innocents in UK and other countries.
I think you should apologise.

2. US Citizens, like the Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi did not donate a 'pittance' to the murderous PIRA cause, they enhanced and provided credence to same.

Obviously you think these murdering cunts actions are somehow justified.
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CJM555 wrote: Obviously you think these murdering cunts actions are somehow justified.
Here is a photo of your comrades work from 1993 -

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That attack was obviously an inside job committed by the UK government.
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Rutiger wrote:
CJM555 wrote: Obviously you think these murdering cunts actions are somehow justified.
Here is a photo of your comrades work from 1993 -

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That attack was obviously an inside job committed by the UK government.

Conspiracy wacko :facepalm:
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CJM555 wrote:
Rutiger wrote:
CJM555 wrote: Obviously you think these murdering cunts actions are somehow justified.
Here is a photo of your comrades work from 1993 -

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That attack was obviously an inside job committed by the UK government.

Conspiracy wacko :facepalm:
Exactly. :thumb: :thumb:
One would have to be an incredible dickhead asshole to spout conspiracy nonsense again and again and actually believe it, don't you think?
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people still believe muslims actually managed to hijack planes and fly them into buildings in one of the worlds most heavily guarded airspace, it was an inside job
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Rutiger wrote:
CJM555 wrote:
Rutiger wrote:
CJM555 wrote: Obviously you think these murdering cunts actions are somehow justified.
Here is a photo of your comrades work from 1993 -

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That attack was obviously an inside job committed by the UK government.

Conspiracy wacko :facepalm:
Exactly. :thumb: :thumb:
Ok, is there an irony symbol ? =@
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